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PhatBottomGirly
03-31-2005, 10:51 PM
Pontiff in 'serious' condition but responding to antibiotics
Thursday, March 31, 2005 Posted: 7:41 PM EST (0041 GMT)

LAST RITES
In the Catholic Church, the last rites began as a ritual of healing, but the emphasis shifted over time to forgiving the sins of a dying person as preparation for going to heaven.

The church has tried to return to the original meaning of the sacrament by emphasizing that it is not only for those who are close to death but also for anyone who is ill, by calling it the Anointing of the Sick or the Sacrament of Anointing.

The Anointing of the Sick is performed by a priest who applies oil blessed by a bishop to the organs of the five senses -- eyes, ears, nostrils, lips and hands -- feet, and, for men, loins, although the last step is not always followed.

In cases in which death might come before the ritual can be completed, the priest might anoint only the forehead.


VATICAN CITY (CNN) -- Pope John Paul II's condition remained "serious" early Friday, but he appeared to be responding well to antibiotic treatment for a urinary tract infection that caused him to develop a fever, a Vatican official said.

Thursday night, as his health deteriorated, the pontiff was given the last rites of the Roman Catholic Church, a Vatican source told CNN.

The sacrament does not necessarily mean that the pope is dying. Last rites -- also known as the sacrament of the sick or extreme unction -- are commonly given to people who are seriously ill as well.

The pope received the sacrament after he was shot by a would-be assassin in 1981.

The pope is suffering from a high fever caused by a urinary tract infection, the Vatican confirmed earlier Thursday -- one day after revealing he had been put on a nasal feeding tube.

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said in a statement released Wednesday: "To improve his calorific intake and promote an efficient recovery of his strength, nutrition via the positioning of a nasal-gastric tube has begun."

Medical sources at Gemelli hospital in Rome, where the pope has been hospitalized twice since February, told CNN that no provisions are being made for the pope to be readmitted for treatment.

The Vatican has its own medical facilities where he could be treated.

Video of the Vatican showed that the pope's apartments were darkened.

The 84-year-old pope suffers from a number of chronic illnesses, including crippling hip and knee ailments, and Parkinson's disease, a progressive neurological disorder that can make breathing difficult.

The pope was hospitalized from February 1 to February 10 for respiratory difficulties. He returned to the hospital for a tracheotomy February 24 and was discharged March 13.

Ill health forced him to miss a number of events during Holy Week.

On Easter Sunday, the pope tried to speak to a crowd assembled in St. Peter's Square but could not get out the words. He made the sign of the cross with his hand instead. (Full story)

On Monday, he skipped the post-Easter Queen of Heaven prayer for the first time in his 26-year papacy. The traditional appearance on the Monday after Easter has marked the end of the Holy Week celebrations. (Full story)

The pope's death, whenever it comes, will leave a "very large gap that's going to have to be filled," said Monsignor Kevin Irwin of Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.

"His illness has given us time to prepare ourselves," he said Thursday. "On the other hand, this is going it be a very, very significant papacy to follow.

"This man made the papacy bigger than life," he said. "He is a man who has been an international traveler involved in many relations with other faiths."

Also in Washington, Cardinal Theodore McCarrick urged Catholics and non-Catholics alike to pray for the pope.

"May he recover. We pray for that. May the Lord give him strength, and may he be able once again to communicate in the way he has done in the past, with such heart and such wisdom," McCarrick said. "But if this is not the Lord's will, then may he not suffer, because he is certainly going through a period of suffering now."

The use of a feeding tube for the pope illustrates his position on treatment for the critically ill.

In 2004, he wrote that doctors have a moral duty to preserve life.

"The administration of water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represents a natural way of preserving life ... not a medical procedure."

The Vatican has criticized a Florida judge's order to remove the feeding tube from Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman who died Thursday after nearly two weeks without food or water. (Full story)

CNN's Alessio Vinci contributed to this report.

Mikey
03-31-2005, 11:07 PM
i hope he pulls through

sws4420
04-01-2005, 08:14 AM
He won't. He's refusing to return to the hospital. He knows it's his time to die and wants to die in his home.

His real name was Karol Wojtyla. I never knew that.

Mikey
04-01-2005, 08:36 AM
didn't know that either. Oh well he did have a good life

PhatBottomGirly
04-01-2005, 09:03 AM
Yes he did Mikey :sad: :pope2:

sws4420
04-01-2005, 09:05 AM
They were just saying on the news that one of the first things to happen once the Pope does die is that they seal his apartment off to prevent looting. :huh:

PhatBottomGirly
04-01-2005, 09:20 AM
Yeah, youd think it were for the merchandise too, but believe it or not, its for anything that he owned, they believe it will forever annoint them, I wonder if they know stealing is breaking a commandment? :unsure:

They keep showing pictures of him riding around in his pope mobile, its sad. Hes kissed the ground of 120 countries, EXCEPT for Antartica. Thats awesome.

dan
04-01-2005, 09:24 AM
Hes kissed the ground of 120 countries, EXCEPT for Antartica.

No wonder he got a urinary tract infection. That dirty dirty pope.

In other news, this pope was probably one of the greatest that ever lived, recognized even by atheists such as myself for working to heal some of the damage the catholic church has done, apologizing for wars, pedophile priests, etc.. When he first got in to office he organized a meeting between all the religious heads of the world in an act of uniting all of them towards a common goal of bringing whichever "God" they had to the people, something a pope has never done.

He's achieved so much more then that, maybe I'll type up a small biography, he's one of the people whose lives I tend to keep track of.

PhatBottomGirly
04-01-2005, 09:27 AM
No wonder he got a urinary tract infection. That dirty dirty pope.

In other news, this pope was probably one of the greatest that ever lived, recognized even by atheists such as myself for working to heal some of the damage the catholic church has done, apologizing for wars, pedophile priests, etc.. When he first got in to office he organized a meeting between all the religious heads of the world in an act of uniting all of them towards a common goal of bringing whichever "God" they had to the people, something a pope has never done.

He's achieved so much more then that, maybe I'll type up a small biography, he's one of the people whose lives I tend to keep track of.
:wub: That was awesome.

Cutesunshine
04-01-2005, 10:03 AM
*falls Over*
:love: Dan

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:04 PM
damn...i'm so not kissing the ground then. I feel bad for the pope

sws4420
04-01-2005, 02:05 PM
What the balls are you talking about? :huh:

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:08 PM
about how nicole said he kissed the ground 120 times and dan was like no wonder he has a uti....that's why i said that, geez come on now

trojanmiro
04-01-2005, 02:10 PM
last rights, "you have the right to remain silent" :laughing:

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:11 PM
lol....different one mike

trojanmiro
04-01-2005, 02:13 PM
i saw more humor in it, as in the whole easter thing where he couldnt talk and how silent hes gonna be when hes dead.

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:18 PM
true...didn't see it that way

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:29 PM
the pope has died :cryup: :cryup: :byetears:

trojanmiro
04-01-2005, 02:33 PM
where did you hear that, its not on any news that i can find yet

sws4420
04-01-2005, 02:33 PM
FoxNews. Channel 70.

Mikey
04-01-2005, 02:35 PM
anthony said it in the chat just a few mins ago.

dan
04-01-2005, 05:05 PM
anthony said it in the chat just a few mins ago.

Anthony is not CNN.

As of yet, he's still alive.

Kari
04-01-2005, 05:07 PM
Well Last Rites are also given to the very ill they are trying to defend that on the news when he passes they will shut the golden doors and shutters chime the bell and play somber music ....

Mikey
04-01-2005, 05:29 PM
yes i realize this too dan.