View Full Version : Guilderland High School Student Attacked
sws4420
04-06-2005, 09:52 AM
Police say the attack happened shortly before classes let out at Guilderland High School on Tuesday. They say the student was leaning over a drinking fountain when someone jabbed him in the back with a cross. The student went to the nurses office where they found that a piece of that cross was still in his back. He was taken to Albany Med and is expected to be okay. Police do have a suspect, but have not made an arrest yet, as they are still piecing the whole case together.
Mikey
04-07-2005, 11:14 AM
guilderland high isn't that bad but there are some bad apples in that school...that's why my mom made me go to academy
Queenie
04-07-2005, 12:05 PM
There are bad apples in any school, regardless of the area.
sws4420
04-07-2005, 12:08 PM
I stabbed some kid in school with a pencil. I didn't make the news.
I stabbed some kid in school with a pencil. I didn't make the news.
I got stabbed in the hand with a pencil, you can still see the graphite mark on my palm.
I got kicked out of Albany academy for fighting, and boarding school for throwing a kid through a library window. No news.
Maybe it's because he used a cross. I should have thought of that.
Crystal
04-07-2005, 12:17 PM
Brianna stabbed herself in the hand with a pencil. :rolleyes:
I threw blocks at the teacher and threw the window,and I didn't make the news.
I also flushed a kids head in the toilet and didn't make the news either.
Doesn't seem fair to me. Although I wouldn't want to be the kid with the cross stuck in my back. I think the other kid has been to church one to many times, lol.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 12:54 PM
guilderland high isn't that bad but there are some bad apples in that school...that's why my mom made me go to academy
I think it's a common misconception that people that go to private schools are better...
I mean you say that your mom made you to go academy because there were bad apples in guilderland... some of the biggest scumbags that I know went to Academy...
I'm not saying anything about you or your school... I'm saying that this notion of "well, I'm putting my kid in private school so they won't be mixing with those *public school kids*" is ridiculous... the only thing that's better about Academy over a public school is maybe the education, but even that, I'd argue.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Brianna stabbed herself in the hand with a pencil. :rolleyes:
I threw blocks at the teacher and threw the window,and I didn't make the news.
I also flushed a kids head in the toilet and didn't make the news either.
Doesn't seem fair to me. Although I wouldn't want to be the kid with the cross stuck in my back. I think the other kid has been to church one to many times, lol.
Once, I told my teacher in a talk about religion that I was a prostitute. I meant to say protestant, but being that I didn't go to church or practice my religion, I didn't know what I was saying. I got sent to the dean's office for being inappropriate in class. It made the news. I don't know who called, but it became a thing with separation between church and state because I ended up getting a referral for it.
:huh:
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 01:00 PM
6th grade math class i remember a kid stabbed another kid in the leg with a compass. the circle drawing compass not the north south east and west one.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 01:02 PM
the circle drawing compass not the north south east and west one.
I sincerely hope that no one reading this post would have needed that clarification... but hey, ya never know! :laughing:
Crystal
04-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Once, I told my teacher in a talk about religion that I was a prostitute. I meant to say protestant, but being that I didn't go to church or practice my religion, I didn't know what I was saying. I got sent to the dean's office for being inappropriate in class. It made the news. I don't know who called, but it became a thing with separation between church and state because I ended up getting a referral for it.
:huh:
:laughing: haha thats some funny shit
The church and school thing has always been an issue I think, look at the whole pledge of allegience thing. :rolleyes:
sws4420
04-07-2005, 01:44 PM
The Pledge of Allegiance is irrelevant to any topic discussed so far.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 01:50 PM
The Pledge of Allegiance is irrelevant to any topic discussed so far.
It was relevant to my comment about the separation of church and state.
Alter Eg0
04-07-2005, 01:50 PM
The Pledge of Allegiance is irrelevant to any topic discussed so far.
It was relevant to my comment about the separation of church and state.
What made it so relevant to his or her comment about the separation of church and state
Crystal
04-07-2005, 01:52 PM
It was relevant to my comment about the separation of church and state.
thank you. :wub:
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 01:59 PM
I threw a desk at my english teacher in 10th grade. Then her mom was the secretary to the Vice principal and I did the Amy wipe on her desk.
I didnt get on the news, But I did get ISS
sws4420
04-07-2005, 02:02 PM
The pledge of allegiance doesn't include any specific religion is what I meant.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 02:36 PM
The pledge of allegiance doesn't include any specific religion is what I meant.
Oh, Okay. Gotcha.
That brings up an interesting topic...
*goes to "debate/discussion section to start a new thread*
sws4420
04-07-2005, 02:39 PM
Nice to see someone knows how to follow directions.
The pledge of allegiance doesn't include any specific religion is what I meant.
I know some buddhists who might disagree with you.
sws4420
04-07-2005, 03:08 PM
I know some buddhists who might disagree with you.
Well fuck them in the ass with a big rubber dick. I don't care.
Well fuck them in the ass with a big rubber dick. I don't care.
Case in point, faggot.
sws4420
04-07-2005, 03:25 PM
Case in point, faggot.
I'm sure that if any society based in Buddhism has nothing in its equivalent of the Pledge about what I believe in, either. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If they don't like it, go elsewhere.
I'm sure that if any society based in Buddhism has nothing in its equivalent of the Pledge about what I believe in, either. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If they don't like it, go elsewhere.
Well, first, Buddhism doesn't effect the governments where it is like religion effects ours, secondly we're the only faggots with a pledge. Thirdly, they're pretty free with letting people believe whatever they want, including Christian beliefs, as long as you have certain moral guidelines that you live by, (ie. pacifism and the like). There's a wide range of beliefs within the religion itself. Since no control is needed over members of the religion, a strong set of rules and guidelines really isn't needed.
So, no they don't have a pledge, but they would be more open to the way you believe then the reverse would be true. And, if they're here, and American citizens, they don't get to just "go somewhere else". This is their country too, and people forget that.
sws4420
04-07-2005, 03:34 PM
Point taken.
The only reason religion even exists is to keep the people under some sort of control. As hard as it may be to accept that for some people, it's the truth. A man in the clouds didn't say you shouldn't kill anyone. It's just a way to make living a little easier. No ghost in the night said anything about life after death being heavenly. That's just to make people unafraid of the inevitable. Because let's face it, everyone dies. All religions are different in a lot of ways, but that's a common trait among them all.
snobord447
04-07-2005, 03:45 PM
Point taken.
The only reason religion even exists is to keep the people under some sort of control. As hard as it may be to accept that for some people, it's the truth. A man in the clouds didn't say you shouldn't kill anyone. It's just a way to make living a little easier. No ghost in the night said anything about life after death being heavenly. That's just to make people unafraid of the inevitable. Because let's face it, everyone dies. All religions are different in a lot of ways, but that's a common trait among them all.
I have always said that many (not all) people use religion as a crutch. People can't be responsible for their own actions, so they blame God, or ask God why something happened.
Religion allows people to be weak. People shoulnd't NOT KILL people because it's a commandment and they dont want to go to hell... they should NOT kill people because they would have to live with taking someone's life for the rest of their own.
Yes, people need answers. I read an article the other day called: A Scientific View of Life, Death, and Immortality. One line in it says: The vague concept of life after death is a product of refusal to accept death as a permanent destruction of one's self. I believe this to be very true. Also it says: It is a common human instinct to put a closure to any unresolved questions. I believe that this is much of the idea behind religion.
Anyone wanting to read this article, it's a GREAT one. Let me know... I'd love to talk to someone about it. It's at http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/aparthib/life_death_immorality.htm
Alter Eg0
04-07-2005, 03:45 PM
Point taken.
The only reason religion even exists is to keep the people under some sort of control. As hard as it may be to accept that for some people, it's the truth. A man in the clouds didn't say you shouldn't kill anyone. It's just a way to make living a little easier. No ghost in the night said anything about life after death being heavenly. That's just to make people unafraid of the inevitable. Because let's face it, everyone dies. All religions are different in a lot of ways, but that's a common trait among them all.
I have always said that many (not all) people use religion as a crutch. People can't be responsible for their own actions, so they blame God, or ask God why something happened.
Religion allows people to be weak. People shoulnd't NOT KILL people because it's a commandment and they dont want to go to hell... they should NOT kill people because they would have to live with taking someone's life for the rest of their own.
Yes, people need answers. I read an article the other day called: A Scientific View of Life, Death, and Immortality. One line in it says: The vague concept of life after death is a product of refusal to accept death as a permanent destruction of one's self. I believe this to be very true. Also it says: It is a common human instinct to put a closure to any unresolved questions. I believe that this is much of the idea behind religion.
Anyone wanting to read this article, it's a GREAT one. Let me know... I'd love to talk to someone about it. It's at http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/aparthib/life_death_immorality.htm
What did you mean by that many not all people use religion as a crutch? "You and your suspending kids who will not stand during the pledge or who get ISS when they choose not to say that one line" many not all people use religion as a crutch ?
Makes sense to me.Humans are not always infallible.I am a Protestant Christian.Humans are not always infallible.Why should they?I see. They seem to have a variety of needs.I don't think I've read that. Can you give me a reference?
One what?Just because you believe it doesn't make it true.I've heard that before.You don't say.I think Anyone wanting to read this article it is more than that.
Go ahead, , try to know.Why don't you make an appointment.
Who said
at httpwww dotmukto-monadot comArticlesaparthiblife_death_immorality is?Do you prefer books or TV?
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 04:05 PM
The only reason religion even exists is to keep the people under some sort of control. As hard as it may be to accept that for some people, it's the truth. A man in the clouds didn't say you shouldn't kill anyone. It's just a way to make living a little easier. No ghost in the night said anything about life after death being heavenly. That's just to make people unafraid of the inevitable. Because let's face it, everyone dies. All religions are different in a lot of ways, but that's a common trait among them all.
this is the best interpretation of things i have been trying to say but always lacked the skill to express it. ive always believed religion to be for week minded people, who need something to hold onto so they dont feel alone, a crutch as shannon put it.
Mikey
04-07-2005, 04:26 PM
yeah i know shannon....there were some assholes at academy which i did not care for, but they left me alone thankfully. I didn't know u went to academy dan
snobord447
04-07-2005, 04:27 PM
yeah i know shannon....there were some assholes at academy which i did not care for, but they left me alone thankfully. I didn't know u went to academy dan
How old are you Mikey?
Do you know Derek Paulsen?
Mikey
04-07-2005, 04:31 PM
25.....i think i remember the name
yeah i know shannon....there were some assholes at academy which i did not care for, but they left me alone thankfully. I didn't know u went to academy dan
I lasted half a year.
Mikey
04-07-2005, 04:55 PM
oh gotcha...what year?
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 04:55 PM
I lasted half a year.
thats tenure right there.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 08:03 PM
I'm slightly offended that you think religion is for the weak. But whatever, it's your opinions. My family and myself are very religious. I do believe in god. And it slightly disgusts me that Billy doesn't. But whatever. That's him and your feelings. But to stereotype religious people and those who have faith in the lord is wrong. If you dont believe it religion or god... It really doesnt give you the right to judge others. I'm the farthest thing from weak, I dont look to god to help me, or give me answers.
If you dont believe it religion or god... It really doesnt give you the right to judge others.
i agree. (i'm serious.)
i, myself, don't believe in god. i'm not a religious person. but just because i don't believe in god, doesn't mean you shouldn't either. (not directed towards amy, i mean in general.)
i'm not going to 'preach' to anyone about how stupid and gullible they are for believing in god, it doesn't effect me either way.
but of course, i expect the same respect.
i don't expect anyone to preach to me about the time i'm missing with god, and how i'm just 'walking in the desert'.
if i wanted god in my life, he'd be there.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 09:14 PM
Yeah, I dont force my beliefs on anyone. Some day a life event may happen where you realize he's there, or not. But I dont feel being called Weak because I believe in something is fair to me. I think Im the farthest thing from weak.
Its irritating when people force their thinking down your throats... catholics arent really like that. Its the damn bible thumping jehovas and stuff that are forceful about it. WHen ya hide in your house from someone knocking on your door, you are usually hiding froma witness. :smile:
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 09:27 PM
your right, i shouldnt have made it a derogatory remark. to me its just a extremely hard concept to swallow. i kinda think baptisms, church school and that stuff is brainwashing children at a young age before they develop a independent thought process and individual thinking. me having had no part in that, when i reflect upon the bible its nothing more then a fictional piece of literature. the whole concept of only being allowed into heaven if you accept god as your savior disgust me. its like saying a serial kill can enter and i will not because he believed in god so all his sins are forgiven. with all diferent forms of religion also there is no justifiable way to say your religion is right and the others are wrong, which is what all religions pretty much teach.
to each their own though.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 09:40 PM
God doesnt forgive sins if you just believe in him. Confession, eucharist and things of that nature is how god forgives you.
We recieve communion because "It is the body of christ which was shed on us so that sins may be forgiven"
Since the New Testament era, the Catholic Church has always understood baptism differently, teaching that it is a sacrament which accomplishes several things, the first of which is the remission of sin, both original sin and actual sin—only original sin in the case of infants and young children, since they are incapable of actual sin; and both original and actual sin in the case of older persons.
We also read: "Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" These are universal, not restricted to adults. Also, this make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
So essentially, an unbaptized person... will ascend into heaven without being forgiven of sin.
I know alot of this religious stuff, I just dont push the issue.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 09:45 PM
(our secret.... I wish billy would go get baptized catholic now)
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 09:49 PM
getting baptised as an adult is a crappy process. my gram always harass me to get baptised before she dies and looked into it for me. i was gona do it to make her happy but theres classes and stuff you gotta take before and can only be baptised in church. im not gonna be 25 years old standing up in church to get baptised. she finally gave up asking me though.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 10:02 PM
At our... well MY church, In downtown Albany, They still do private baptizmals. Its nice.
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 10:17 PM
At our... well MY church, In downtown Albany, They still do private baptizmals. Its nice.
still gotta take the classes before you get baptised? i kinda wouldnt mind doing it if it would make my grandmother happy even though it goes against my beliefs. shes done alot for me and i can make some self sacrifice to do something that would please her. i just hate the idea of going to church school, i dont think id be able to tolerate it.
PhatBottomGirly
04-07-2005, 10:23 PM
still gotta take the classes before you get baptised? i kinda wouldnt mind doing it if it would make my grandmother happy even though it goes against my beliefs. shes done alot for me and i can make some self sacrifice to do something that would please her. i just hate the idea of going to church school, i dont think id be able to tolerate it.
No classes to get baptised. At all. You have to answer some questions when youre at the church getting ready to get it done, IE, "do you believe in God", etc etc...
Classes are for First Communion and Conformation only.
trojanmiro
04-07-2005, 10:29 PM
maybe different churchs have different rules or something. shes die hard religious freak so im pretty sure she knows all the rules at her church.
what happens if i answer that i dont believe in god on the questionnaire? :laughing:
PhatBottomGirly
04-07-2005, 10:33 PM
maybe different churchs have different rules or something. shes die hard religious freak so im pretty sure she knows all the rules at her church.
what happens if i answer that i dont believe in god on the questionnaire? :laughing:
Then they wont baptise you if you tell them you dont believe in God, and if its a Catholic (Roman) it wont matter what the church says, I dont think, there are no classes for Baptismals.
I personally dont think you should get it done, just for your Grandmother. If you do it wont matter anyway, youll be lying in a church about believing in God, when you really dont. I wouldnt do it.
Cutesunshine
04-07-2005, 10:46 PM
Yeah I wouldnt do it either. Your godparents when your baptized are supposed to be the ones to ensure you continue your faith.
trojanmiro
04-08-2005, 08:40 AM
i dont even think i have god parents. well they would be informal god parents of course but regardless.
snobord447
04-08-2005, 10:24 AM
I'm slightly offended that you think religion is for the weak. But whatever, it's your opinions. My family and myself are very religious. I do believe in god. And it slightly disgusts me that Billy doesn't. But whatever. That's him and your feelings. But to stereotype religious people and those who have faith in the lord is wrong. If you dont believe it religion or god... It really doesnt give you the right to judge others. I'm the farthest thing from weak, I dont look to god to help me, or give me answers.
I definitely don't think that everyone who practices/believes is weak. But there are certainly people who are. And there are people that don't beleive that are weak too. I just was speaking on the people who do turn to God and say why did you let this happen... or whatever... that's what I meant.
I didn't mean to offend you, Amy. :sad:
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