Butterflies equipped with tracker devices

[sws4420]

Butterflies know where they are going. They might look indecisive as they flutter by, but British scientists now know better.

A team from Rothamsted Research in Hertfordshire fitted peacock butterflies and small tortoiseshells with radar backpacks and tracked their flightpaths.

The radar fitting must be one of the most intricate technological challenges ever attempted on wildlife. The delicate creatures had to be held down, given the lepidopterist's equivalent of a bikini wax and then fitted with transponders weighing just 12-thousandths of a gram. Researchers have used the same technique to track the flights of bees and bumblebees.

The insects could fly normally: the transponders weighed between 4% and 8% of their total bodyweight.

The scientists watched the butterflies play, feed and even mate. "It obviously didn't bother them that much," said Lizzie Cant of Rothamsted.

"Butterflies are good pollinators and I wanted to know whether or not they fly along linear features, along a fence row, or whether they can fly quite directly; whether from a distance they can see a patch and fly to it across the fields."

On the evidence so far, they can do the latter.
Interesting story, yes. But it makes me ask, if we can place a tracking device on a butterfly that weighs .0012 grams, why can't we put them on our soldiers so we can find them before their heads get lopped off? :huh:

[snobord447]

Interesting story, yes. But it makes me ask, if we can place a tracking device on a butterfly that weighs .0012 grams, why can't we put them on our soldiers so we can find them before their heads get lopped off? :huh:

Or in any other type of person. A tracking device weighing that little and not interfering with life processes at all... you could go so far as to say that they should be planted in children... inmates... people with Alzehimer's. I wonder what the long term effect of having that in your body would be?

[Mikey]

that's very interesting....butterflies w/ tracker devices

[dan]

that's very interesting....butterflies w/ tracker devices

Your ability to copy and paste thread titles and add "that's interesting" is staggering.

Keep up that good work.

[Mikey]

i'll try my best dan.

[Mikey]

what and we don't have much time on our hands

[snobord447]

I take it the British don't have much to do over there.
Again, Mindy. I must remind you of the article featuring the AMERICAN study regarding the homosexuality of sheep! :laughing:

Mindy :love:

[dan]

Again, Mindy. I must remind you of the article featuring the AMERICAN study regarding the homosexuality of sheep! :laughing:

Mindy :love:

I'd like to do a study regarding the homosexuality of this board.

[Mikey]

lol...i bet the sheep lover would love this article, lol

[Crystal]

Interesting story, yes. But it makes me ask, if we can place a tracking device on a butterfly that weighs .0012 grams, why can't we put them on our soldiers so we can find them before their heads get lopped off? :huh:


Or in any other type of person. A tracking device weighing that little and not interfering with life processes at all... you could go so far as to say that they should be planted in children... inmates... people with Alzehimer's. I wonder what the long term effect of having that in your body would be?

I agree with why can't we put them on our children and shit. It would make for a heluva lot of work though. Think of how many children, inmates, sick old people, and anyone else who you would want to have one of the transponders in them. I'm sure the butterflies didn't have names or famalies that the people conducting the research kept track of, lol. They just put the transponder on/in them and away they went. They would have to have alot of people keeping track of who was where and shit...and I think it would cause alot of parents to not keep track of there own kids, and nursing home employees to not keep track of the old people...just seems like to much work to me.

[Cutesunshine]

not so much keep track of them 24/7... But once ya realize they're missing or whatnot.
Like here, we do Q2hr rounds... alongside checking em, we could look up where they were.

[Crystal]

not so much keep track of them 24/7... But once ya realize they're missing or whatnot.
Like here, we do Q2hr rounds... alongside checking em, we could look up where they were.

It would lessen the responsibilites of employees and parents. We already have enough parents who slack on taking care of there kids, this thing would be like a 24 hour babysitter for them.

[dan]

not so much keep track of them 24/7... But once ya realize they're missing or whatnot.
Like here, we do Q2hr rounds... alongside checking em, we could look up where they were.


Yeah, like they do with the GPS in cars. They don't constantly monitor them, but if they get stolen, they can look them up and tell you where they are. It wouldn't replace caretakers, it would help them in the case of emergency.

I think constant monitoring on soldiers would be fantastic, as long as you could hard code the signal and be notified if it was compromised, perhaps even signals that changes it's frequency every couple of seconds.

[dan]

It would lessen the responsibilites of employees and parents. We already have enough parents who slack on taking care of there kids, this thing would be like a 24 hour babysitter for them.

Knowing where they are doesn't make them safe, if a baby is a dot on a screen and the dot is in it's house, if they were monitored constantly this wouldn't help them. Even if they were drowning in a bathtub. Bad parents who avoid watching their children and slack off do it now, they won't slack off any more or less with this, they're just bad parents, and eventually they're kids will die anyway. Anyone who would look at this like a babysitter shouldn't have kids in the first place. It's your responsibility, at all times, to take care of the people you're in charge of, parenting of, this responsibility can never be shared, or lessened, it's your function, as a parent, and if you think it can be slacked off, give up your children for adoption.

[Crystal]

Knowing where they are doesn't make them safe, if a baby is a dot on a screen and the dot is in it's house, if they were monitored constantly this wouldn't help them. Even if they were drowning in a bathtub. Bad parents who avoid watching their children and slack off do it now, they won't slack off any more or less with this, they're just bad parents, and eventually they're kids will die anyway. Anyone who would look at this like a babysitter shouldn't have kids in the first place. It's your responsibility, at all times, to take care of the people you're in charge of, parenting of, this responsibility can never be shared, or lessened, it's your function, as a parent, and if you think it can be slacked off, give up your children for adoption.

Good parents would think of it like that. Bad parents wouldn't and it would increase the chances of the babies being lost, abducted which would more than likely increase the amount of kids being killed.

[dan]

Good parents would think of it like that. Bad parents wouldn't and it would increase the chances of the babies being lost, abducted, or killed.

With parents like that, the dead, lost, abducted children are better off.

[Crystal]

With parents like that, the dead, lost, abducted children are better off.

Well we have different views.
I agree it would be a good idea for the soldgiers though.

[dan]

I'm just sick of this country being stumped, not being able to advance, and being scientifically or socially capped because of the stupidity of other people. I agree with you Crystal, I'm just sick of it. People are fucking stupid, so completely fucking useless.

Drugs are illegal because people are stupid.

Everything has a label because people are stupid.

Real lawsuits are being thrown out and fradulent ones win because people are fucking stupid.

Laws are passed, things are made illegal, rights are taken away, people are censored, people's lives are generaly of a lesser quality in this country because so many things have to be worked around these fucking retarded twat cunts we have here.

You should have to have a license to live, and if you fail my IQ test, you die. End of fucking story.

[Crystal]

I'm just sick of this country being stumped, not being able to advance, and being scientifically or socially capped because of the stupidity of other people. I agree with you Crystal, I'm just sick of it. People are fucking stupid, so completely fucking useless.

Drugs are illegal because people are stupid.

Everything has a label because people are stupid.

Real lawsuits are being thrown out and fradulent ones win because people are fucking stupid.

Laws are passed, things are made illegal, rights are taken away, people are censored, people's lives are generaly of a lesser quality in this country because so many things have to be worked around these fucking retarded twat cunts we have here.

You should have to have a license to live, and if you fail AN IQ test, you die. End of fucking story.

I agree.


First time for us today, :whistle:

[snobord447]

Crystal, I agree, it would be quite a process to implant them all now. But if it became something done at birth, like "tie off the cord, wrap baby in towell, circumsize (if that's what you do) and implant chip..." it would work better. Also, imagine how useful it would be to find people that were fugitives... running from the law... etc. etc.

[Crystal]

Crystal, I agree, it would be quite a process to implant them all now. But if it became something done at birth, like "tie off the cord, wrap baby in towell, circumsize (if that's what you do) and implant chip..." it would work better. Also, imagine how useful it would be to find people that were fugitives... running from the law... etc. etc.

Oh I know, and I'm not saying that it wouldnt be useful, or helpful. I'm just stating that I think alot of people would take advantage of it.

[snobord447]

Oh I know, and I'm not saying that it wouldnt be useful, or helpful. I'm just stating that I think alot of people would take advantage of it.

Yeah... I'm sure... because people take advantage of anything that they can take advantage of.
But hey, at least when parents aren't taking care of their kids, SOMEONE can know where they are!

[sws4420]

You can get a chip implanted in your dog for $75 that has coded inside it that tells the name of the dog, the breed, the owner, and all vert records. Why the fuck can't we get it done with our kids? It could be like a standard set of information that is vital to emergency personnel. Blood type, allergies, name, parents, etc.

On a related note, I saw the movie Final Cut the other night with Robin Williams. Good flick. Has some interesting bit of technology in there. Check it out.

[Cutesunshine]

If the parents werent the ones monitoring where the kids were and there was like a central place, Like Onstar... It wouldnt compromise the way children are treated anyway.
With the baby boomers getting to alzheimer, dementia age... It would be ideal for both facilities like mine, and people who care enough to care for their parents at home. Even if the thing wasnt constantly monitored... But like... If one of my crazies goes out the door, it would alert someone to watch it... Ya know what I mean?

[trojanmiro]

it would be cool if you put those electric dog collars on the old crazies and when they get to close to the door they get shocked. :laughing: