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sws4420
05-20-2007, 06:56 PM
Friends, foes offer competing images of "Extreme Makeover" winner
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COLONIE -- There is the reality TV version of Debbie Oatman, recipient of the "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" bonanza, whose image will be softly lighted and burnished to a warm glow during a two-hour tearjerker season finale today.

And then there is the plain reality, which is much messier, and involves a thick file of police reports and allegations of drug use and abusive behavior, all covered by a heavy cloud of innuendo.

"That's the thing about Deb; people either love her or hate her," said Joe Gaitan, her former husband and father of the couple's 10-year-old son, Scout, who lives with Oatman and her three adopted boys.

"There's a lot of good in Deb," said Gaitan, 50, of Ravena, a truck driver who battled Oatman through a bitter divorce and custody fight. "But there's also a dark side. I knew the dark side."

"She's absolutely wonderful with children," said Patricia Baldwin, chairwoman of the teacher education program at The College of Saint Rose, who observed Oatman as a fourth-grade student-teacher and praised Oatman's sensitivity and compassion.

Oatman graduated with a bachelor's degree in childhood education from Saint Rose on May 12. She was on the dean's list, had a 3.8 grade point average and was selected for membership in a national honor society. The college also offered her a full scholarship for graduate school.

Somewhere in between those starkly contrasting images of Debbie Oatman the saint and Debbie Oatman the sinner, the truth resides.

The light and shadow of Oatman's forceful personality, once confined to a small circle of family and friends, has been thrust into a hit TV show's white-hot glare.

Today's ABC-TV home makeover of Oatman's Fairway Lane home in Colonie and the story about the 49-year-old single mother -- two of whose adopted sons were diagnosed with HIV and also have special needs -- will be seen by some 20 million Americans and an estimated 1 billion viewers in 69 countries.

"It's the Super Bowl of reality shows," said co-executive producer Conrad Ricketts during a visit to Colonie for the show's March taping.

Suddenly, Oatman and her long quarrelsome streak have been placed under an intense microscope, creating an open season for those who wish to criticize her.

Oatman chalks up the trash talk to petty jealousy.

Those slinging the mud consider her a masterful manipulator who's receiving her just deserts.

"When you're on a show that's so high-profile, you become a target and have to expect a backlash," said Neil Willenson, founder and CEO of Camp Heartland, based in Minnesota. His organization has provided a summer camp experience for more than 2,000 children with HIV/AIDS and their families since 1993. He said he received hate mail after his camp played a small part in a previous episode of "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition."

Oatman's sons attended the camp and Willenson told the "Extreme Makeover" producers, who were searching for a family dealing with HIV/AIDS, to reach out to Oatman.

The camp will be featured in Sunday's episode.

Fairway Lane residents who have had dust-ups with Oatman whisper about her volatile nature. She's become a lightning rod for the 15 minutes of TV fame that descended upon the sprawling town.
"Debbie is very vocal when it comes to fighting for her kids. She had a run-in with another parent, but that happens all the time," said Joe Pavone, a neighbor of Oatman's on Fairway Lane and former president of Colonie Little League, where her sons played.

"I'll tell you from experience that the three young men she adopted are nice, polite and great kids," said Brian Casey, a retired town police officer who got to know Oatman's three adopted sons during his years as a DARE officer at Lisha Kill Middle School and as a resource officer at Colonie High School. Casey has heard negative hearsay about Oatman as a member of the South Colonie School District Board of Education, which he wouldn't discuss.

"Everywhere I go, people are still talking about her," said Police Chief Steven Heider, who was on the scene daily during the show's filming. He also once lived on Fairway Lane and keeps in touch with former neighbors.

"Sure, I've heard a lot of criticism, but you can't take back what she did, taking in those boys with HIV at a time when nobody else in suburbia would think of doing that," he said.

Dr. Kallana Manjunath, an Albany pediatrician who treated Oatman's children for many years, concurred.

"Those children she adopted could have been abandoned in a hospital in New York City if she didn't come forward," Manjunath said. "Debbie is a caring parent who provided them with a comfortable home and kept them healthy through a life-threatening disease."

The best and worst of the local community have been on display since Ty Pennington and the "Extreme Makeover" design team's tour bus rolled down Fairway Lane in March to oversee demolition of Oatman's water-damaged raised ranch and construction of a 3,700-square-foot custom home in just 96 hours.

While dozens of contractors donated thousands of dollars of material and labor and an army of volunteers lent a hand, a bitter campaign of anonymous letters and e-mails about Oatman has been conducted below the media radar.

"This is really starting to piss me off," Oatman said last week in a telephone interview in a blunt, combative style detractors call abrasive and supporters view as strong advocacy for her adopted sons.

"I don't have to defend myself to anyone and I'm not trying to vindicate myself because I haven't done anything wrong," she said. She said the TV show's producers conducted a thorough criminal background check on her and that she has no convictions on her record.

Colonie police filed 18 incident reports dating to 1997 after investigating complaints by neighbors or family members at the Oatman-Gaitan home. The reports ranged from domestic disputes, arguments with neighbors, harassing phone calls, emotional outbursts by the children and vandalism of the family's car.

Two of the incidents involved marijuana.

On July 2, 2003, a Colonie DARE officer went to the house to present a gift from the police for one of the sons and noticed six marijuana plants growing on the rear deck. Oatman said the plants belonged to her husband and Gaitan was charged with unlawful possession of marijuana the next day. There was no record of conviction.
On Sept. 19, 2005, three years after Gaitan left the house and a month after their divorce was finalized, a son called police after he smelled smoke coming from his mother's bedroom and suspected it was marijuana, according to the police report. Investigators found a metal box in her nightstand with a small amount of marijuana in a plastic bag and a ceramic pipe. Oatman was charged with unlawful possession of marijuana. There was no record of conviction.

"Nothing was substantiated that the marijuana was my marijuana," Oatman said.

Gaitan describes the couple frequently smoking marijuana together, partying with friends and a euphemism the kids used for her hangovers ("mom's got the vodka flu").

"Joe's very vindictive and I don't have time to deal with the man anymore," said Oatman, who receives $265 weekly from Gaitan for child support under their divorce settlement, which allows him a 24-hour visit with Scout every other weekend and four hours one night a week.

Gaitan doesn't deny his own criminal past. He was arrested on charges of conspiracy to sell cocaine in 1994 in Florida, while he was working as a pool installer, and served two years' probation.

The two met in 1995 in Washington, D.C., at the National Institutes of Health, where Oatman's adopted son and Gaitan's daughter from a previous marriage were receiving experimental HIV drugs.

Gaitan said he and Oatman socialized with several couples they met at NIH, some of whom had adopted as many as six children with HIV for their primary source of income.

After their marriage in 1997, Oatman and Gaitan brought a girl with HIV from New York City into their home on a trial visit with plans to adopt her, but the girl was sent back to an adoption agency because of extensive medical and psychological problems.

"We talked about adopting two girls and that was going to be my income because my daughter with HIV wasn't bringing in any money since she wasn't adopted," Gaitan said.

Oatman receives subsidies for her three adopted sons that amount to an annual income in the $40,000 range, according to state subsidy rate schedules.

Oatman, who grew up in Ravena and worked with emotionally disturbed adolescent girls at St. Anne Institute in the late 1980s, was last employed outside the home in the early 1990s as a part-time waitress at a Friendly's restaurant.

She denied her ex-husband's contention that adopting HIV-positive children was a moneymaking scheme.

"I didn't take any children for money," Oatman said.

"Even if she was receiving over $100,000 a year in adoption subsidies, it's not enough to compensate for all the heartache and trouble," said pediatrician Manjunath, who, with his wife, took in an HIV-positive child as foster parents for a year and found it draining work.

Gaitan also said his ex-wife was prone to outbursts that could turn abusive toward the children. Gaitan said she targeted his daughter with HIV, who moved out of the Fairway Lane house five years ago. She is now 19 years old and lives with a relative in Florida. She declined to be interviewed for this article.
Oatman denied Gaitan's allegations.

According to the Colonie police reports, Oatman was both victim and perpetrator in family disputes.

In 2004, Oatman was taken to the hospital with a swollen face after she was struck by one of her sons during an argument about cleaning the house. In 2001, she suffered a cut to her nose while trying to restrain her agitated son, reports said.

In 1997, Oatman tossed Gaitan's clothes into the yard and police arrived during a heated argument between the couple, reports said. Two more times that same year, police responded to break up fights between the couple, including one skirmish that turned into a wrestling match in the driveway.

"Debbie could be tough and outspoken, but you have to be in this job," said Terry Gabriel, associate executive director at St. Anne Institute, where Oatman was promoted to unit manager of 25 emotionally disturbed girls in the late 1980s.

Some staffers didn't get along with Oatman because of her strong personality, Gabriel said, but she was a valued employee who was never investigated for abuse or even suspected of mistreating the girls, and she eventually left for a better-paying job.

Those who have observed Oatman working with children praise her.

"Debbie's an exceptional teacher and an amazing person," said Kerry Degnan, a close friend and classmate in the education department at Saint Rose who graduated last week.

As for the hubbub on Fairway Lane and her critics in Colonie, Oatman is trying to shrug it off.

"I take what people are saying with a grain of salt and don't see a down side," said Oatman. Besides her custom home, she has more than $160,000 in donations raised locally in the bank and college scholarships promised to her four sons and herself -- a geyser of goodwill valued at more than $1 million.

And what of the neighbors who sometimes clashed with Oatman?

They collected checks of $500 to $1,500 from the TV folks for their inconvenience. They were put up at a local hotel during construction. Several had their driveways repaved after TV crews parked trailers and heavy equipment on them and some had new grass and fencing installed as compensation for the use of their yards.

Still, the negativity persists.

"What else do they want from me?" Oatman asked. "They should spend their time examining themselves."


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Cutesunshine
05-20-2007, 07:05 PM
Fucking douchebag.
She sounds like straight ravena trash the way she speaks.

trojanmiro
05-21-2007, 08:54 AM
not in one sentence of that article does she sound grateful for anything she has gotten.

sws4420
05-21-2007, 08:58 AM
Oatman chalks up the trash talk to petty jealousy.Aw, c'mon Mike. She sounds very grateful here.

MedicCook
05-21-2007, 08:59 AM
Rumor has it she is going to be trying to sell the house very soon.

sws4420
05-21-2007, 09:01 AM
Rumor has it she is going to be trying to sell the house very soon.I think if it's sold within a certain amount of time, she'll have to pay huge taxes. I forget the particulars.

MedicCook
05-21-2007, 09:02 AM
I think if it's sold within a certain amount of time, she'll have to pay huge taxes. I forget the particulars.

I am not sure if she signed the no sale agreement that the show has. I know she was refusing initially.

Donna
05-21-2007, 09:09 AM
not in one sentence of that article does she sound grateful for anything she has gotten.

she looked grateful on the show anyway......I think if my past was broadcast all over and the whole town was against me, I'd sound pretty pissed off too. On the other hand, you'd think they'd choose a family with less of a drug and violence past, I'm guessing the aids sold the show on choosing her.


Rumor has it she is going to be trying to sell the house very soon.

Now THAT'S ungrateful, to even consider it! The volunteers worked their asses off for 96 hours to get that done, and they did it with such compassion and pure selflessness, and those bedrooms made especially for the kids...........that would be horrible!

Cutesunshine
05-21-2007, 09:14 AM
I think the oldest kid, DJ would fight her about it. Try to take it over.

Like I said, she adopted DJ when she lived in Ravena. She did it for the money she would get for the rest of her life. He wasn't expected to live past age 5 or 6, so she only had to deal with him for 4 or 5 years, then get His social security death benefits the rest of her life. This is fact, as told to me by her sister.
When she realized how much she was making having DJ, she brought in the other kids.
I'm curious as to why no back ground check was done when she brought the kids into the home, let alone when she got on the show. Her ex makes pretty good money, at least for her to get $256 a week in Child support. Must be a real hard life making $50k a year sitting on your fat white trash ass.

Crystal
05-21-2007, 01:26 PM
I really can't believe the bad things that have been brought to the table after finding out who was getting the home makeover or whatever. I understand that some people are more deserving than others but c'mon the fact that she is raising 3 kids (2 of which have HIV and other problems) who aren't hers and one that is, is great no matter what. I'm sure she has to deal with petty bullshit because of the kids having HIV and I'm sureeeeee it isn't easy raising kids that aren't yours, especially SICK kids. She didn't have to take them in, she chose to. And Amy weren't you just saying something about stay at home mom's getting paid for what they do? Isn't that what she is doing basically? I mean except the fact that she goes to school full time to better herself. I don't see anything wrong with what she's doing. Basically adopting a child is like running a daycare, and of course there going to pay you for it. And if she is making 50,000 just off of those 3 kids who aren't hers then she is bringing in approximately 16,666. a year for each kid. But I think the child support and stuff was factored into the 50K so she is probably making less than 15K a year for each of those kids. Is that alot of money? Noooooo. This is the job she chose to pursue, just as others have. We however choose to work outside the home, and in office settings. She can't be put down for what she's doing when she is changing the lives of 3 children.

Of course her EX isn't going to have nice things to say about her......probably why he is her ex. Also, it was stated that the producer went to the heartland place, and he nominated Deb's family. So it's not like she got to pick herself for the show.

I just don't understand why it's so hard for some people to just be happy for others. Everyone's day comes when they catch the break that they needed, and I'm sure alot was done to find out if she really needed this or not. I do agree that they shouldn't go all out like they do, but that's what happens when you deal with TV, there always doing the best of the best. I'm sure it was just like winning the lottery, the luck of the draw.

Cutesunshine
05-21-2007, 03:13 PM
If I didnt know her from adam, and it was another state and city and whatnot... I'd have nothing negative to say. But unfortunately, I know her... the way she is... How she thinks and what she thought. When you bring in and adopt a child who is sick, when the aids epidemic first hit, and you thought he'd be dead within 4 years and you'd have an extra income with no child... Then you're not a good person. Those children didnt even talk about Debbie... or how great of a mom she is.
If she was such a phenomenal mom... do you think one of the kids would have called the police on her for smoking pot? Do you really think that everyone in their neighborhood and schools are so ignorant in the year 2007 that they'd just exclude these kids for no good reason?

If you read the blog on the times union site, you will see numerous teachers, and other care givers who have dealt with her. They say that she lied about her 16 year old... Telling staff at Veeder elementary that he had HIV as well, even though he didn't. She says the school districts were mean to her children, yet every bathroom, and classroom and even the cafeteria were stocked with gloves and sanitary things, not only for the staffs protection, but for the boys since their immune system is compromised.

She's ungrateful, and she's learned how to cheat every aspect of the system. She didnt have to pay for college for herself anyway, She got near 100% financial aid, and the few loans she took out for books, got repaid for her.
There's a lot to the story that no one is aware of, a lot to deb that they kept quiet to prevent embarassment of the show and of our area...

sws4420
05-21-2007, 04:29 PM
I am not sure if she signed the no sale agreement that the show has. I know she was refusing initially.It's not so much a show agreement, it's a tax issue.

As far as people dragging her past into the whole thing instead of being happy for her, that's bullshit. Sure, she took in kids with problems. They most likely get their healthcare for free from the state, so she's not shouldering that burden. $15k a year per kid will certainly feed and keep a kid with clothes on their back. I don't know her personally, but Amy's family knows them and I've heard from at least one teacher in her district about the kind of person she is. In my opinion, the kids are the ones that deserve the house, not her. White trash is white trash is white trash. Most people with as much 'bad luck' as her bring it on themselves. Nobody's life sucks so bad that they're just hammered day in and day out with bad luck. There's just a lot more people in the country that could have used the kind of treatment she got other than her.