2008 Celebrity Death Pool (Rules, Questions & General Discussion)

[sws4420]

Here's how it works. You pick twenty celebrities that you think are going to die in 2008. Also, include their age in the post, if possible. When your pick dies this year we will subtract their age from 100. Whatever the difference between 100 and their age will be how many points you receive. Whoever has the most points this time next year will get a cash prize

Here's my list:
1. Don Imus - 67
2. Lindsey Lohan - 21
3. Artie Lang - 41
4. Tina Yothers - 35
5. Leslie Nielsen - 82
6. Amy Winehouse - 25
7. Dick Clark - 79
8. Jenna Jameson - 34
9. Hugh Hefner - 82
10. Fidel Castro - 82
11. Michael Moore - 54
12. Ron Paul - 73
13. George H.W. Bush - 84
14. Madonna
15. Bea Arthur
16. Elizabeth Taylor
17. Scott Peterson
18. Dick Cheney
19. Muhammed Ali
20. Pervez Musharraf

[MedicCook]

Here's My List

1. Bob Barker :byetears: (84)
2. Old Man Bush :dry: (84)
3. J.L. Spears' Baby :whistle: (0)
4. Jerry Lewis :nuts: (81)
5. Castro :emot-holy (82)
6. Abe Vigoda :byetears: (86)
7. Nick Hogan :wings: (17)
8. Ozzy :sad: (59)
9. Joan Rivers :clap: (74)
10. Whitey Ford :crying: (79)
11. Lex Lugar :dry: (49)
12. Ted Kennedy :nuts: (75)
13. George Steinbrenner :crying: (77)
14. Kirk Douglas :dry: (92)
15. Zsa Zsa Gabor :clap: (90)
16. Charlton Heston :dry: (84)
17. Britney Spears :clap: (26)
18. Sydney Pollack :dry: (74)
19. Billy Graham :dry: (90)
20. Charles Manson :crying: (73)

[Crystal]

My vote is for Jamie Lynn's baby to.

[Cutesunshine]

1.wilford brimley
2. Jack LaLanne

I have to think more on this..


and

:rotflmao:@ron paul

[sws4420]

Try to keep your lists in the same post. Those of you with no edit button, I can add it for you so just post it in here.

[trojanmiro]

we used to do this at a bar. the way we worked it was you make a list of 20 people. each person threw in 10 bucks. the way it was scored was you subtracted how old the person was from 100, and you earned that many points. so lets say someone picked l. lohan, and say shes 30 or whatever, if she died you got 70 points.

[sws4420]

We can do it that way. Try to include the current ages of your picks.

[Jimmerz]

1: Queen Elizabeth II- 81

2: bob barker-

3: Zsa Zsa Gabor-

4: jenna Jameson- 34 (she got aids its just a matter of time)

5: Leslie Nielsen - 82

6: dick clark- 75 (already half way there from a stroke)

[sws4420]

Ooh, Bob Barker.

Well played.

If you guys add your newest additions in this thread, I'll merge them for you.

[LLL]

2 Kings, 2 Molestors, and a Murderer - Just to get me started!

1. Larry King 74
2. Bill Clinton 61
3. Mickey Rooney (87)
4. Strom Thurmond (cancel that - he died 4 years ago)
4. Don King 76
5. OJ Simpson 60 ( I will also predict that he'll die at the hands of a big dude named Bubba in Nevada State prison. Fukkin bastard.)

I'll think up some more later.

Add 2 more Murderers, a News Icon, and 2 Stage Stars:

6. Osama bin Laden 50
7. Ted Kennedy 75 (39 years after Mary Jo)
8. Walter Cronkite 91
9. Carol Channing 86
10.Harvey Fierstein 55

More later.....

11. Tom Bosley 80
12. Martin Sheen 67
13. Mick Jagger 64
14. Charles Manson 73
15. Charles Durning (84)

.....

16. Willaim Shatner 76
17. Woody Allen 72
18. Andy Williams 80
19. Little Richard 75
20. Eli Wallach 92

finis

[MedicCook]

I was thinking Charlie Manson today myself. It would be a shame if he goes though.

[Donna]

britneys gonna be found like marilyn monroe, only difference will be brit will be self-inflected :whistle:

[trojanmiro]

1- bob barker 84
2- dick clark 78
3- jean stapleton 84
4- dick van dyke 82
5-danny devito-63
6- kirk douglas 91
7- paul newman 82
8-phyllis diller 90
9- jimmy carter 83
10- dick cheney 66
11 bob dole 84
12 fidel castro 81
13 margaret thatcher 82
14 nelson mandela 89
15 betty ford 89
16 muhammed ali 65
17 stan musial 87
18 david rockefeller 92
19 osama bin laden 50
20 tom brokow 67

[Donna]

1- bob barker 84
2- dick clark 78
3- jean stapleton 84
4- dick van dyke 82
5-danny devito-63
6- kirk douglas 91
7- paul newman 82
8-phyllis diller 90
9- jimmy carter 83
10- dick cheney 66
11 bob dole 84
12 fidel castro 81
13 margaret thatcher 82
14 nelson mandela 89
15 betty ford 89
16 muhammed ali 65
17 stan musial 87
18 david rockefeller 92
19 osama bin laden 50
20 tom brokow 67

I can't even think of 20 famous people on the top of my head that qualify.......you guys are good! Osama is only 50???

[trojanmiro]

I can't even think of 20 famous people on the top of my head that qualify.......you guys are good! Osama is only 50???

i cheated.
http://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com/default.asp

[HLBiteME!]

Can you pick people who are famous because they are on death row and the reason they are famous is because people are appealing to not have them killed?

[trojanmiro]

Can you pick people who are famous because they are on death row and the reason they are famous is because people are appealing to not have them killed?

i would say there is no real criteria on how they are famous, just as long as they are.

[MedicCook]

Here's My List

1. Bob Barker :byetears: (84)
2. Old Man Bush :dry: (84)
3. J.L. Spears' Baby :whistle: (0)
4. Jerry Lewis :nuts: (81)
5. Castro :emot-holy (82)
6. Abe Vigoda :byetears: (86)
7. Nick Hogan :wings: (17)
8. Ozzy :sad: (59)
9. Joan Rivers :clap: (74)
10. Whitey Ford :crying: (79)
11. Lex Lugar :dry: (49)
12. Ted Kennedy :nuts: (75)
13. George Steinbrenner :crying: (77)
14. Kirk Douglas :dry: (92)
15. Zsa Zsa Gabor :clap: (90)
16. Charlton Heston :dry: (84)
17. Britney Spears :clap: (26)
18. Sydney Pollack :dry: (74)
19. Billy Graham :dry: (90)
20. Charles Manson :crying: (73)

My list is complete.

[trojanmiro]

i hate to get technical here but in what fashion are you talking of death to jl spears baby. is a miscarriage considered a death? if abortion technically isnt i dont see how a miscarriage would be.

[MedicCook]

i hate to get technical here but in what fashion are you talking of death to jl spears baby. is a miscarriage considered a death? if abortion technically isnt i dont see how a miscarriage would be.

That will be up to the majority I guess. The way I see it, this fetus is already a celebrity.

[LLL]

Well, if you really want to get picky some of these celebs could be ruled dead already. Joan Rivers, for example, had her face fall off some time ago, yet she is still considered to be alive. And, of course, Teddy Kennedy has been walking around with a pickled liver for many years, but is still thought to be among the living. :happy:

[MedicCook]

Manson was the hardest one for me to put on the list, but he is getting pretty sickly looking the last time I saw him.

[sws4420]

Well, if you really want to get picky some of these celebs could be ruled dead already. Joan Rivers, for example, had her face fall off some time ago, yet she is still considered to be alive. And, of course, Teddy Kennedy has been walking around with a pickled liver for many years, but is still thought to be among the living. :happy:I think the only disadvantage to having people like that on their list is the lower number of points you get if they actually do die.


i hate to get technical here but in what fashion are you talking of death to jl spears baby. is a miscarriage considered a death? if abortion technically isnt i dont see how a miscarriage would be.Good question. That's 100 points, which will be a huge deal in this game. What do you guys think?

I sort of think that maybe we should only list people who are actually alive and breathing.

[MedicCook]

Good question. That's 100 points, which will be a huge deal in this game. What do you guys think?

I sort of think that maybe we should only list people who are actually alive and breathing.

The child will have the chance of being born this year. As soon as the fetus is in the 3rd trimester it is for the most part a viable human life.

[sws4420]

True, but I think it should have to be born first and then pass away for it to count in the contest.

[MedicCook]

It will probably have to be determined in how they report it. If they report that she went into labor then anything after that should count. If they report a miscarriage then it will not count.

[Cutesunshine]

in the eyes of all these pro choice people a fetus isnt a child till its taken a breath.

[MedicCook]

in the eyes of all these pro choice people a fetus isnt a child till its taken a breath.

So as long as she goes into labor and the child is born it should count even if the child does not survive after birth.

[sws4420]

I dunno. Something about including an unborn child in the contest seems sort of morbid to begin with.

[Cutesunshine]

I dont care personally. And I dont know what the law reads. But I know if the lungs are inflated, thats when these pro choice fucktards consider a baby an actual baby.

[MedicCook]

I dunno. Something about including an unborn child in the contest seems sort of morbid to begin with.

Isn't the entire thing morbid? I though that was the point of it to begin with.

[sws4420]

Of course, but for adults. I'm not sure I've ever seen one of these done where there were children on it. Something about betting on the death of a child for some sort of prize is weird. I'd say there should be an age limit, but that'd be sort of arbitrary.

[MedicCook]

I don't think there should be an age limit especially if you are using a points system of age from 100. A celebrity is a celebrity and right now J.L.'s baby is going to be a bigger celebrity than most of the people on these lists.

[trojanmiro]

True, but I think it should have to be born first and then pass away for it to count in the contest.

thats kinda what i was getting at.

[trojanmiro]

is anyone maybe up for this, split this thread into two different ones. one composed strictly of list and the other for obituaries and random chat about it? maybe give it its own section or something like how we have the general bullshit and then members profiles and such. call it the death pool section and then under each individuals name they can create a thread that would have their list in it. in the general discussion section of it as i stated above we can dump all the obituaries and discussion in. sounds like alot of work i know but in the end i think it would be cool and worth it. jsut an idea.

[MedicCook]

I think we need to set a cut off soon for people to get their picks in.

[trojanmiro]

I think we need to set a cut off soon for people to get their picks in.

i agree. perhaps by the end of the month?

[MedicCook]

Bill, I can work on Mike's idea tonight when I get home from work.

[trojanmiro]

Bill, I can work on Mike's idea tonight when I get home from work.

neat, we might even be able to use it as a gimmick to draw some new members to the site.

[MedicCook]

neat, we might even be able to use it as a gimmick to draw some new members to the site.

There is an actual message board about this but it is all based around 1 guy's picks.

[trojanmiro]

how long do you think it would take to revamp a section like that? ill wait till your finished but ill post a myspace link on my page and try to encourage a few other users to join the board and participate. and maybe for the time frame thing, instead of having a black and white deadline for entering, maybe have it be a 1-2 week deadline from when a person joins the site. and obviously say they join in march or something their list cant include anyone who has already passed away this year.

i suppose we should get billiams approval on this before we get too carried away.

[MedicCook]

Probably take about 1/2 and that includes all the individual threads for each person on the lists.

[sws4420]

It'd take about two minutes. Just describe what you want me to do.

I gave it its own section in Community. Mike, you're the moderator of it. Let me know what changes you need made.

[MedicCook]

Georgia Frontiere (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=145585#post145585), owner of the St. Louis Rams dead at 80.
No one had her in their pool though.

[sws4420]

Hold on a second. I don't think we should have a thread for the person until they've died.

[MedicCook]

Sam the Butcher, 'Brady Bunch' Actor Allan Melvin (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19470)Dies.

No one had him in the pool though.

[trojanmiro]

cool, i like the new layout for this. now we just gotta get more people dying.

[MedicCook]

I had threads for each person that has been put on a list with a picture and what makes them a celeb because a lot of the people choosen are not known by name always but by seeing a picture. I guess Bill thought it was too much though.

[trojanmiro]

i didnt get a chance to see it that way. i guess i can kinda understand though with the each individual thread thing cause it would flood the new post section. this aint bad at all though. my only concern is if we get any newcomers and they want to make a list if they would know where to do it. should it go in the discussion thread and the leader thread get updated or something?

[MedicCook]

Probably their initial list could go in here and then one of us can update the leaderboard thread. I made that thread just so no one would have to dig and search for who had who on their list.

[sws4420]

I had threads for each person that has been put on a list with a picture and what makes them a celeb because a lot of the people choosen are not known by name always but by seeing a picture. I guess Bill thought it was too much though.I thought a thread for each celebrity was a bit much this early, sorry. Can you see where I put them?


i didnt get a chance to see it that way. i guess i can kinda understand though with the each individual thread thing cause it would flood the new post section. this aint bad at all though. my only concern is if we get any newcomers and they want to make a list if they would know where to do it. should it go in the discussion thread and the leader thread get updated or something?I gave you access to the hidden forum with all of the threads. I just moved them all in there to keep them from overwhelming the board. I think one thread controlled by the moderator should be kept. I think I saw it somewhere. There should be a list of participants at the top along with their score and underneath that should be each contestants' list.

[MedicCook]

I thought a thread for each celebrity was a bit much this early, sorry. Can you see where I put them?

Yeah I see them. I was thinking the individual threads for people to explain their picks and a place to put updates on their status that way it does not get buried into one huge post and can keep people on track easier.
I know personally I could not place Sydney Pollack by name at all until I saw his picture.

[sws4420]

Understood. Maybe I can put them back in the thread and somehow make them unsearchable. I'll take a look.

[MedicCook]

That is what I have been thinking about also. They have sat in that special place for a couple of days now so they should be deep enough in the new posts that they might not bother anything.

[MedicCook]

Suzanne Pleshette (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=145886#post145886), the husky-voiced star best known for her role as Bob Newhart's sardonic wife on television's long-running "The Bob Newhart Show," has died at age 70.
No one had her in the pool though.

[MedicCook]

Folk singer John Stewart (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=145890#post145890)dead.

No one had him in the pool though.

[MedicCook]

I moved 5 of the individual threads into circulation as a test to see if it over loads. Let me know if anyone see's any problems.

[MedicCook]

I have moved all the individual threads into the main forum. It seems as though they have sat long enough that they will not interfere with anyone's new posts search. For anyone that makes a list with someone new I will make the initial thread in the Admin forum so that it has time to sit for a couple of days before it gets moved into this forum.

[MedicCook]

Actor Heath Ledger (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=146154#post146154)dead at 28.

No one had him in the pool though.

[trojanmiro]

Actor Heath Ledger (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=146154#post146154)dead at 28.

No one had him in the pool though.

tough one to pick. he managed to keep his habits out the tabloids and such.

[MedicCook]

tough one to pick. he managed to keep his habits out the tabloids and such.

It would have been a tough one to predict. 72 points missed by us all. :wait:

[MedicCook]

Alton Marshall (http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=658003&category=&BCCode=&newsdate=1/24/2008), aide to Rockefeller, dies at 86.
Borderline famous person.
No one had him in the pool though.

[sws4420]

Is there a site that keeps track of this stuff?

[trojanmiro]

Is there a site that keeps track of this stuff?

yes, s0lidgr0und.

[sws4420]

Touche.

[MedicCook]

Is there a site that keeps track of this stuff?

There is a Death Pool site that one guy has for himself but I have not been on his in a week or two. I have just been keeping my eyes open for dead people.

[MedicCook]

Kenya's Wesley Ngetich (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23095805-5003402,00.html), marathon runner killed by poison arrow at 34 y/o.

[trojanmiro]

Kenya's Wesley Ngetich (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23095805-5003402,00.html), marathon runner killed by poison arrow at 34 y/o.

tribal assasination. :rotflmao:

[MedicCook]

tribal assasination. :rotflmao:

This guy is borderline at best but how cool is it that he got killed by a poisoned arrow.

[Donna]

OMG, they still have poisoned arrows??? :whoa: :rotflmao:

[MedicCook]

Marlon Brando's son, Christian Brando (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=146701#post146701)dies at 49.

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[MedicCook]

Ex-Indonesian dictator Suharto (http://s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=146757#post146757) dies at 86.

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[sws4420]

I didn't even know he existed. :blink:

[MedicCook]

I almost put him on my list but decided against it.

[MedicCook]

Gordon B. Hinckley (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=146892#post146892), the longest-serving president of the Mormon church who presided over one of the greatest periods of expansion in its history, died Sunday, a church spokesman said. He was 97.

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[LLL]

I saw some good candidates I had forgotten appear on the SAG Awards last night. Mickey Rooney and Charles Durning. Is it too late to go for 'em?

[trojanmiro]

I saw some good candidates I had forgotten appear on the SAG Awards last night. Mickey Rooney and Charles Durning. Is it too late to go for 'em?

i think the best way to handle this would be a vote. i personally dont have a problem with ammending your list as long as its not after a person has been hospitalized or come down with a terminal illness.

[LLL]

i think the best way to handle this would be a vote. i personally dont have a problem with ammending your list as long as its not after a person has been hospitalized or come down with a terminal illness.

Thanks, man, I was just kind of kidding anyway. I think I already have one in Bill Clinton anyway........Hillary is going to kill him soon. :rotflmao:

[sws4420]

Let's make Friday the tentative cutoff date.

[LLL]

Let's make Friday the tentative cutoff date.


OK, if you're willing to accommodate, please remove Ed Dague and Michael Jackson and substitute Mickey Rooney (87) and Charles Durning (84). If you'd rather not, that's fine, too.

[sws4420]

Done.

[MedicCook]

OK, if you're willing to accommodate, please remove Ed Dague and Michael Jackson and substitute Mickey Rooney (87) and Charles Durning (84). If you'd rather not, that's fine, too.

How pissed are you gonna be if both Michael and Ed die this year now? :giggles:

[LLL]

How pissed are you gonna be if both Michael and Ed die this year now? :giggles:


I'd feel a little bad for Ed, but Jacko can go anytime. :wings:

[sws4420]

:mgunner::jackson:

[LLL]

:mgunner::jackson:

:rotflmao:

[MedicCook]

And with all that fire power the fucker is still standing.

[sws4420]

Unless we unleash his kid on him again.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/eg0member/Celebs/Michael%20Jackson/michael-face1.jpg

[MedicCook]

I wonder if he has a ban on all open flames in his house. Even a candle could melt him away.

[MedicCook]

Margaret Truman (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=147201#post147201), the only child of former President Harry S. Truman who became a concert singer, actress, radio and TV personality and mystery writer, died Tuesday. She was 83.

No one had her in the Death Pool though.

[MedicCook]

General Hospital actress Shell Kepler (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19752)dead at 49.

No one had her in the Death Pool though.

[sws4420]

At this rate, only one of us have to be right to win the damn contest.

[trojanmiro]

At this rate, only one of us have to be right to win the damn contest.

still alot of time left in the year.

[MedicCook]

Actor Barry Morse (http://s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19767), 'Fugitive's' Lt. Girard dead at 89

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[MedicCook]

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23018484), Guru who taught Beatles meditation dead at 91.

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[MedicCook]

Former Houston Oilers linebacker John Grimsley (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19835)was found fatally shot in his suburban Houston home Wednesday, the apparent victim of a gun cleaning accident, he was 45.

No one had him the the Death Pool though.

[sws4420]

Oh yeah, at this point I'm going to consider the Death Pool entries as final.

[MedicCook]

How about new people that want to get involved as the year goes on?

[sws4420]

We'll see how it goes if they're interested or if it even happens. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to throw a list together real quick if they wanted.

[MedicCook]

I agree that all current lists should now be final.

[mb*]

does anyone have any points yet?

I'd like to throw a list together. i can prolly get it on here tomorrow.

[sws4420]

Nope. Not yet.

You can make one when you get a chance. You're a founding member, you pull rank.

[MedicCook]

does anyone have any points yet?

I'd like to throw a list together. i can prolly get it on here tomorrow.

Go for it. 20 names is all you need.

[mb*]

You're a founding member, you pull rank.
sweet! i always wanted to pull rank... :dance:

[MedicCook]

Roy Scheider (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?p=149285#post149285), the actor best known for his role as a police chief in the blockbuster movie "Jaws," has died. He was 75.

No one had him the Death Pool though.

[sws4420]

Damn. :sad:

http://www.emanuellevy.com/images/photos/aecowsjossn.jpg

[LLL]

He was on borrowed time, having nearly been chomped up by that big fishy. :itsok:

[MedicCook]

Vegas Rocker Freddie Bell (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gNhCVRioEl7p7Hdw837C0pnBKw5AD8UOG5380)Dies at 76. Freddie Bell, a forerunner in the 1950s rock 'n' roll era whose toe-tapping versions of "Giddy Up A Ding Dong" and "Hound Dog" inspired Elvis Presley to cover the songs.

No one had him in the Death Pool.

[MedicCook]

David Groh (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=20029), the handsome, hardworking character actor who was best known to television viewers as the easygoing man Rhoda Morgenstern married and divorced during the run of Valerie Harper's hit 1970s sitcom "Rhoda," has died. He was 68.

No one had him in the Death Pool though.

[MedicCook]

Howard the Duck creator Steve Gerbur (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=20069)dead at 60.

No one had him in the Death Pool.

[MedicCook]

James Orange (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/16/obit.orange/index.html), civil rights activist, dies at 65.

No one had him in the Death Pool.

[trojanmiro]

sweet! i always wanted to pull rank... :dance:

get to it woman.

[sws4420]

I know, right. You don't pull THAT much rank.

[MedicCook]

Nancy Reagan (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23215200) hospitalized after falling at home
She might have been a good one to have.

[MedicCook]

Actress Mary Barclay (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/guernsey/7255144.stm)dies at 91. She appeared in the 1973 film A Touch of Class with George Segal and Glenda Jackson, and played the domineering Stella Dane in television's Crossroads.

Ms Barclay's other televison credits included: Secret Army, Spy Trap, Dixon of Dock Green and Steptoe And Son.

[MedicCook]

Teo Macero (http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=665940&category=&BCCode=&newsdate=2/22/2008), a record producer, composer and saxophonist most famous for his role in producing a series of albums by Miles Davis in the late 1960s and early 1970s, including editing that almost amounted to creating compositions after the recordings, died Tuesday in Riverhead, N.Y. He was 82 and lived in Quogue, N.Y.

[MedicCook]

Robin Moore (http://tv.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=302105&GT1=7703), the author of several books including "The French Connection" and "The Green Berets," has died after a long illness. He was 82.

[MedicCook]

Sen. Robert Byrd (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/26/byrd.hospitalization/index.html), the Senate's longest-serving member, was admitted to Washington's Walter Reed Army Medical Center for observation Tuesday after a fall at his home Monday night, his spokesman said.

[MedicCook]

National Review founder and conservative commentator William F. Buckley Jr. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/27/buckley.obit/index.html) was found dead Wednesday in the study of his Stamford, Connecticut, home, officials at the magazine said. He was 82.

[MedicCook]

Dave Clark Five lead singer Mike Smith (http://music.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=303328&GT1=7702)died of pneumonia Thursday, less than two weeks before the band was to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He was 64.

[MedicCook]

Legendary blues and jazz guitarist Jeff Healey (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=20315)has died at 41. The Canadian musician had battled cancer his entire life.

[sws4420]

Looks like Margaret Thatcher is going to finally give someone some points. Well played, Mike. Cheater.

[MedicCook]

Former Sen. Howard Metzenbaum (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/12/metzenbaum.obit.ap/index.html), an Ohio Democrat who was a feisty self-made millionaire before he began a long career fighting big business in the Senate, died Wednesday night. He was 90.

[MedicCook]

Ola Brunkert (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=20509) drummer for music group ABBA dead at 61.

[MedicCook]

Anthony Minghella (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=305832&GT1=7701), who won an Oscar for "The English Patient" and directed such hit movies as "The Talented Mr. Ripley," "Cold Mountain" and "Truly Madly Deeply," has died. He was 54.

[MedicCook]

Bob Purkey (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3300163), who pitched in three All-Star games and one World Series with the Cincinnati Reds, has died. He was 78.

[MedicCook]

Arthur C. Clarke (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23697230), a visionary science fiction writer who won worldwide acclaim with more than 100 books on space, science and the future, died Wednesday in his adopted home of Sri Lanka, an aide said. He was 90.

[MedicCook]

Vicki Van Meter (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/18/van.meter.obit.ap/index.html), who made headlines in the 1990s for piloting a plane across the United States at age 11 and from the U.S. to Europe at age 12, died in an apparent suicide. She was 26.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/US/03/18/van.meter.obit.ap/art.van.meter.ap.jpg

[MedicCook]

Ivan Dixon (http://tv.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=305995&GT1=7703), an actor, director and producer best known for his role as Kinchloe on the 1960s television series "Hogan's Heroes," has died. He was 76.
http://www.hogansheroesfanclub.com/images/photoKinchloeSmall.gif

[MedicCook]

Paul Scofield (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=306234&GT1=7701), the towering British stage actor who won international fame and an Academy Award for the film "A Man for All Seasons," has died. He was 86.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Feb08/PaulScofield_Retna_150.jpg

[MedicCook]

Al Copeland (http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iQv0F8DhApua05-U1Fs8YX8P0aAQ), who became rich selling spicy fried chicken and notorious for his flamboyant lifestyle, died Sunday at a clinic near Munich, Germany. He was 64.
The founder of the Popeyes Famous Fried Chicken chain had been diagnosed shortly before Thanksgiving with a malignant salivary gland tumour. His death was announced by his spokeswoman, Kit Wohl.

Former Boston Celtic John Cushley (http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2142151.0.Former_Celtic_player_John_Cu shley_dies.php)has died aged 65.

John List (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/03/24/2008-03-24_killer_john_list_one_of_americas_most_wa.html), a former Sunday school teacher who was on the run for more than 17 years after killing his family in 1971, has died behind bars, authorities said today. He was 82.

Chase Tatum (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15698445/detail.html), former WCW wrestler dead from an apparent accidental OD, he was 34.

[MedicCook]

Richard Widmark (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341788,00.html), who made a sensational film debut as the giggling killer in "Kiss of Death" and became a Hollywood leading man in "Broken Lance," "Two Rode Together" and 40 other films, has died after a long illness. He was 93.

[MedicCook]

Herb Peterson (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hXGNuzGh7W1P5yK8wdlzne2rkXVgD8VLFVAG3), who invented the ubiquitous Egg McMuffin as a way to introduce breakfast to McDonald's restaurants, has died, a Southern California McDonald's official said Wednesday. He was 89.

[MedicCook]

O'Jays Lead Singer's Son Sean Levert Dies

CLEVELAND (AP) -- Singer Sean Levert, son of lead O'Jays singer Eddie Levert and brother of the late R&B singer Gerald Levert, has died after a medical emergency in jail. He was 39.

Levert was sent to jail last week for failing to pay child support and died late Sunday night at Lutheran Hospital in Cleveland, said coroner Frank Miller.

Miller said an autopsy will be conducted to determine the cause of death.

Gerald Levert was 40 when he died in 2006 of an accidental mix of prescription and over-the-counter drugs.

The Levert brothers and childhood friend Marc Gordon were part of the R&B trio LeVert. Their hits included "(Pop, Pop, Pop, Pop) Goes My Mind" and "Casanova."

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=307507&GT1=7702

[sws4420]

Ryan is now in the lead with 16 points due to the death of Charlton Heston today.

[MedicCook]

Ryan is now in the lead with 16 points due to the death of Charlton Heston today.

:rayof:

[MedicCook]

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/ArtAndPhoto-Fronts/COVER/080409/080409-stanley-kamel-vsmall-1p.vsmall.jpg
Stanley Kamel (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24033500/?GT1=43001), well known for playing Dr. Charles Kroger on the hit series “Monk,” has died at 65.

[MedicCook]

Wally Kleine, a football standout who played defensive tackle for Notre Dame and the Washington Redskins, has died, family members said Wednesday. He was 43.

[MedicCook]

Cameron Diaz's Father Dies

Cameron Diaz is mourning the loss of her father.

The actress' father, Emilio Diaz, passed away on Tuesday morning, April 15, after suffing from the flu, which turned into pneumonia, TMZ.com first reported.

The sudden death caused production on the actress's latest film, "My Sister's Keeper," to halt temporarily.

The elder Diaz, a former oil company foreman, was a resident of Seal Beach, Calif. He had a small part in his daughter's comedy "There's Something About Mary."

With his wife Billie, he had two daughters: Cameron Diaz, 35, and Chimene, 37.

[MedicCook]

Martha Stewart's dog dies
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/16/marthastewarts.dog.ap/art.stewart.dog.ap.jpg

NEW YORK (AP) -- Martha Stewart's dog Paw Paw, who was a familiar face on her television show and in her magazine, has died of renal failure.

The 60-pound chow, whose full name was Kublai Khan Paw Paw Chow Chow Chow, was almost 13. Stewart had owned him since he was born, and had named him Paw Paw for his large paws, a spokeswoman said.

"Paw Paw was a spectacular chow and an even more spectacular dog," Stewart wrote in a blog post on his death Saturday. "He was always my loyal companion, displaying the most agreeable temperament."

Stewart wrote that Paw Paw was a willing model for the camera, appearing in television commercials and national print ads. She said in his final days, he stopped eating and drifted off into deep sleeps.

She has two other dogs, Sharkey and Francesca, along with several other animals, including cats, horses and donkeys, at her home in Bedford, New York.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/16/marthastewarts.dog.ap/index.html

[MedicCook]

NEW YORK (AP) — Danny Federici, the longtime keyboard player for Bruce Springsteen whose stylish work helped define the E Street Band's sound on hits from "Hungry Heart" through "The Rising," died Thursday. He was 58.

Federici, who had battled melanoma for three years, died at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

[MedicCook]

Rosalie Ritz (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=20892), a premier courtroom artist who for four decades chronicled dozens of high-drama trials, including those of Charles Manson, Patty Hearst and O.J. Simpson, has died. She was 84.

[MedicCook]

Al Wilson (http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=310598&GT1=7702), the soul singer and songwriter who had a number of 1970s hits including "Show and Tell," has died. He was 68.
http://www.superseventies.com/4_74.gif

[MedicCook]

Paul Davis (http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=310716&GT1=7702), a singer and songwriter whose soft rock hit "I Go Crazy" stayed on the charts for months after its release in 1977, died Tuesday. He was 60.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/april08/pauldavis_150.jpg

[MedicCook]

Kenneth Keith Kallenbach (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=311260&GT1=7703), Howard Stern comic, dies at 39

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) -- Comedian Kenneth Keith Kallenbach, a long-running member of Howard Stern's "Wack Pack," has died after falling ill in jail. He was 39.

Kallenbach contracted pneumonia while in custody on a charge of attempted child abduction. He died Thursday at Riddle Memorial Hospital near Media, his mother, Fay Kallenbach, said Friday.

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/340/345580.jpg

[Thomas the Solitary]

Jazz legend Lyttelton dies at 86
Veteran jazz musician and radio host Humphrey Lyttelton has died aged 86.
The chairman of BBC Radio 4's comedy panel show I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue recently had surgery in an attempt to repair an aortic aneurysm.
The latest series of the quiz programme was cancelled after Lyttelton was admitted to Barnet Hospital in north London on 16 April.
BBC Director General Mark Thompson described "Humph" as "a unique, irreplaceable talent".
'Towering figure'
Lyttelton retired from hosting Radio 2's The Best of Jazz last month after more than 40 years presenting the show.
He hosted I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue - the self-styled "antidote to panel games" - since 1972, appearing alongside regulars Graeme Garden, Barry Cryer and Tim Brooke-Taylor.



Like his many fans, we owe him an enormous debt of gratitude. Like them, all of us at the BBC feel a tremendous sense of loss
Mark Thompson BBC Director General

In 1993, he received a Sony Gold Award for services to broadcasting.

Lyttelton began playing the trumpet in 1936 and was still touring with his band up until his admission to hospital.

Best known for the song Bad Penny Blues, they became the first British jazz act to enter the top 20 in 1956.
He was honoured with a lifetime achievement award at both the Post Office British Jazz Awards in 2000 and at the first BBC Jazz Awards in 2001.

Please turn on JavaScript. Media requires JavaScript to play.
A look back at Humphrey Lyttelton's career
The BBC's Mark Thompson said Lyttelton would leave an "enormous gap" in British cultural life as a whole and in the lives of many millions of listeners.
"One of the towering figures of British jazz, he excelled too as a writer, cartoonist, humorist and of course as a broadcaster on television and radio," he said.
"On "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" all of his gifts were on show, his warmth and conviviality, his wit, his mischievousness.
"He was a unique, irreplaceable talent. Like his many fans, we owe him an enormous debt of gratitude. Like them, all of us at the BBC feel a tremendous sense of loss."
The controller of Radio Four, Mark Damazer, said Lyttelton encompassed "so many" of the virtues people wanted from Radio Four comedy.
"He's just a colossally good broadcaster and possessed of this fantastic sense of timing," he said.
"It's a very, very sad day but we should celebrate and be very grateful for how much he did for Radio Four because he really was one of the giants over the last 40 years, really terrific. "

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/entertainment/7367385.stm

[MedicCook]

Will Robinson (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8082708?MSNHPHMA), the first black basketball coach at a Division I school and a Detroit Pistons scout who discovered Joe Dumars and Dennis Rodman, died Monday. He was 96.

[MedicCook]

Ivan Orsen Caesar Jr. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8086574?MSNHPHMA), a linebacker who played one season for Minnesota Vikings in 1991, was fatally shot in an apartment building after a dispute. He was 41.

He was found at the Tuscany Village Apartments early Monday, the Orange County's sheriff's office said. Police are looking for witnesses.
Caesar, who was born in the U.S. Virgin Islands, played for Boston College and appeared in 14 games for the Vikings in 1991. He played in the Arena Football League from 1995-99 for teams in Tampa, Fla., Milwaukee and Portland, Ore.

[MedicCook]

Albert Hofmann (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/29/hofmann.obit.ap/index.html), father of the mind-altering drug LSD whose medical discovery grew into a notorious "problem child," died Tuesday. He was 102.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/US/04/29/hofmann.obit.ap/art.hofmann.ap.jpg

[MedicCook]

Japan's oldest giant panda, Ling Ling (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24386784/?GT1=43001), a longtime star at Tokyo's largest zoo and a symbol of friendship with China, died Wednesday of heart failure, zookeepers said.

Ling Ling was 22 years and seven months old, equivalent to about 70 human years, the Ueno Zoo said. It said he was the fifth-oldest known male panda in the world.
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/ap/482fe9b7-3f4c-4d80-be6f-3834ca7b1e3b.vsmall.jpg

[MedicCook]

Jim Hager (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=312339&GT1=7703), one of the Hager Twins who satirized country life with cornball one-liners on TV's "Hee Haw," died in Nashville, the show's producer said Friday. He was 66.
http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/May08/jimhager_150.jpg

[MedicCook]

Philipp Freiherr von Boeselager (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/03/hitler.assassin.ap/index.html), believed to be the last surviving member of the inner circle of plotters who attempted to kill Adolf Hitler in 1944 with a briefcase bomb, died Thursday. He was 90.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/europe/05/03/hitler.assassin.ap/art.plotter.ap.jpg

[MedicCook]

Actor Dave Atkins (http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.2242629.0.dave_was_larger_than_life.ph p), perhaps best known for his role as the seedy pub landlord in Men Behaving Badly, has died, he was 67.
http://www.sitcom.co.uk/men_badly/graphics/char_les.jpg

[MedicCook]

Country music superstar Eddy Arnold (http://www.music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=313171&GT1=7702)has died at the age of 89.
http://www.bestlyric.com/images/lyric_cover/20052224340_78967.jpg

[MedicCook]

Could be a good pick for next year.


James Garner, who was hospitalized late last week after suffering a minor stroke, is doing well and should be going home shortly, the veteran television and film star's publicist said Tuesday.
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/13/james.garner.ap/art.james.garner.gi.jpg

[MedicCook]

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/72494403.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABB41B1E7B22F3E52F9 A40A659CEC4C8CB6

Former NFL center Curtis Whitley (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8137540?MSNHPHMA), who played for three teams in the 1990s and had a history of substance use, was found dead in his trailer home in West Texas.

The Pecos County sheriff said Wednesday that the 39-year-old Whitley was found Sunday night in Fort Stockton, about 220 miles east of El Paso.

[MedicCook]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0520/rpm_g_moore_200.jpg
Lloyd Moore (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/news/story?id=3404808), who was recognized as NASCAR's oldest former driver, has died at his home in western New York. He was 95.

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/May08/dickmartin_150.jpg
Dick Martin (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=315865&GT1=7703), the zany half of the comedy team whose "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In" took television by storm in the 1960s, making stars of Goldie Hawn and Lily Tomlin and creating such national catch-phrases as "Sock it to me!" has died. He was 86.

[Donna]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/May08/dickmartin_150.jpg
Dick Martin (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=315865&GT1=7703), the zany half of the comedy team whose "Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In" took television by storm in the 1960s, making stars of Goldie Hawn and Lily Tomlin and creating such national catch-phrases as "Sock it to me!" has died. He was 86.

now THAT was a funny guy! :wub:

[Thomas the Solitary]

Yeah, I liked Laugh-In; apart from the fact that they replaced the original Star Trek.

[Bob]

I hope when I die I'm not remembered by a catch phrase. I'd rather pass in quiet.

[MedicCook]

The leader board has been updated.

http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19390

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/May08/earlehhagen_150.jpg
Earle H. Hagen (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=316189&GT1=7703), who co-wrote the jazz classic "Harlem Nocturne" and composed memorable themes for "The Andy Griffith Show," "I Spy," "The Mod Squad" and other TV shows, has died. He was 88.

Hagen, who is heard whistling the folksy tune for "The Andy Griffith Show," died Monday night at his home in Rancho Mirage, his wife, Laura, said Tuesday. He had been in ill health for several months.

[debbie]

[quote=stackzilla;142820]Here's how it works. You pick twenty celebrities that you think are going to die in 2008. Also, include their age in the post, if possible. When your pick dies this year we will subtract their age from 100. Whatever the difference between 100 and their age will be how many points you receive. Whoever has the most points this time next year will get a cash prize

Here's my list:
1. Patrick Swayze (55)
2. Ted Kennedy (75)
3. Andy Griffith (81)
4. Adam West (78)
5. Julie Newmar (72)
6. Larry Storch (83)
8. Sherman Hemsley (70)
9. Barbara Billingsley (85)
10. Jackie Cooper (85)
11. Ernest Borgnine (91)
12. Sid Ceasar (85)
13. Tony Curtis (82)
14.Kirt Douglas (91)
15. Fess Parker (82)
16. Sidney Poitier (81)
17. Mickey Rooney (87)
18. Doris Day (84)
19. Phillis Diller (90)
20. Shirley Temple (80)

[MedicCook]

Added debbie.

[Thomas the Solitary]

Added debbie.
heh.

Added debbie to what?

[sws4420]

(The Death Pool)

[Thomas the Solitary]

(The Death Pool)
yes, but as a list holder or as one on the list?

(see, that's where the funny part was supposed to be.)

[sws4420]

Ahhh.

http://meow.catsplz.com/cats/pictures/234/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

[MedicCook]

That should almost be rewored in Yoda speak with those ears. Yoda speak I am inept you see.

[Thomas the Solitary]

Be thankful like Yoda speak I do not.

[MedicCook]

I find it very difficult to speak like that. Some of those Star Wars fanatics are dam good at it.

[sws4420]

:offtopic:

I've never seen one Star Wars movie.

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/May08/harveykorman_150.jpg
Harvey Korman (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=316540&GT1=7703), the tall, versatile comedian who won four Emmys for his outrageously funny contributions to "The Carol Burnett Show" and on the big screen in "Blazing Saddles," died Thursday. He was 81.


The best part of this clip is watching Harvey try and not to laugh during the whole bit.

Q9T8i4FkNVo&hl=en

[MedicCook]

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080601/080601-ysl-hmed-6p.h2.jpg
Legendary designer Yves Saint Laurent (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24921661&GT1=43001), who reworked the rules of fashion by putting women into elegant pantsuits that came to define how modern women dressed, died Sunday evening, a longtime friend and associate said. He was 71.

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Aug07/bodiddley_150.jpg
Bo Diddley (http://s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=21296), a founding father of rock 'n' roll whose distinctive "shave and a haircut, two bits" rhythm and innovative guitar effects inspired legions of other musicians, died Monday after months of ill health. He was 79.

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/June08/melferrer_150.jpg
A family spokesman says actor-director-producer Mel Ferrer (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=317317&GT1=7701), who starred in scores of movies and directed his late wife, Audrey Hepburn in numerous others, has died at age 90.

[MedicCook]

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/7a005653-07bc-4eee-a684-a17abc08906c.hmedium.jpg
Jack Lucas (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24988705), who at 14 lied his way into military service during World War II and became the youngest Marine to receive the Medal of Honor at 17, died Thursday in a Hattiesburg, Miss., hospital. He was 80.

[MedicCook]

http://www.abcmedianet.com/showcontent/sports/commentators/i/mckay.jpg
Jim McKay (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8220078), the venerable and eloquent sportscaster thrust into the role of telling Americans about the tragedy at the 1972 Munich Olympics, has died. He was 87.

[Donna]

http://www.abcmedianet.com/showcontent/sports/commentators/i/mckay.jpg
Jim McKay (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/wcStory?contentId=8118850#story=8220078), the venerable and eloquent sportscaster thrust into the role of telling Americans about the tragedy at the 1972 Munich Olympics, has died. He was 87.

this pic almost looks like he already has the dead persons make up on.....:whistle:

[LLL]

this pic almost looks like he already has the dead persons make up on.....:whistle:

It's the Bob Barker look -- all the rage in some retirement communities.

[Donna]

It's the Bob Barker look -- all the rage in some retirement communities.

:giggles:

[MedicCook]

http://bits.westhost.com/scripts/WonderfulLife/images/wl_027.jpg
Bob Anderson (http://film.guardian.co.uk/apnews/story/0,,-7570555,00.html), who played the young George Bailey in the Christmas classic ``It's a Wonderful Life,'' has died. He was 75.

[MedicCook]

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Mitch Frerotte (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8238134?MSNHPHMA), an offensive lineman who played in three Super Bowls for the Buffalo Bills, has died. He was 43.

Steroid abuse?

[MedicCook]

http://www.nopactalent.com/speakerphotos/photos/4235jones_charlie_small.jpg
Charlie Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3442489), the deep-voiced sportscaster whose career as a play-by-play announcer spanned 38 years for ABC and NBC, has died. He was 77.

[MedicCook]

http://www.remembertheafl.com/images/1961Topps144Dukes.jpg
Mike Dukes (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8258756?MSNHPHMA), who played linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers and two AFL teams from 1959 to 1965, was killed in a traffic accident earlier this week. He was 72.

[MedicCook]

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George Carlin (http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=21530) dead at 71 from heart failure.

[MedicCook]

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Kermit Love (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx/?news=320410&GT1=7703), the costume designer who helped puppeteer Jim Henson create Big Bird and other "Sesame Street" characters, has died. He was 91.

[MedicCook]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/components/photo_storylevel/080629/080629-model-vsml-9a.rp350x350.jpg
A European Vogue cover model fell to her death from her Manhattan apartment building Saturday in an apparent suicide, published reports said.

Ruslana Korshunova (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25434058/&gt1=43001), 20, died around 2:30 p.m. in a fall from a building on Water Street, in Manhattan's Financial District, The New York Post, the Daily News and Newsday reported. The newspapers cited unnamed officials and police.

[mb*]

"ze vurld ees not ready for my beauty.."

splat.

[MedicCook]

I think she was murdered. She was a beautiful woman. Now she is a pretty puddle.

[mb*]

i don't think she was murdered. she was prolly just on a bunch of drugs or something.

[sws4420]

Models have their own special set of issues that make them more fucked up than most people.

She jumped.

[MedicCook]

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/July08/bozo_150.jpg
Larry Harmon (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx/?news=321555&GT1=28103), who appeared as Bozo the Clown for decades and licensed the name to other Bozos around the world, has died at age 83.

[MedicCook]

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/080704/n_helms_obit_080704.300w.jpg
Former Sen. Jesse Helms (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25530608), who built a career along the fault lines of racial politics and battled liberals, Communists and the occasional fellow Republican during 30 conservative years in Congress, died on the Fourth of July. He was 86.

[MedicCook]

Former Chargers safety Terrence Kiel (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8314114?MSNHPHMA)was killed after he was thrown from a Chevy sedan he was driving, police said Saturday. He was 27.

[MedicCook]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080712/capt.7ee94d218b334dbc810b6cce7bac18c0.obit_tony_sn ow_ny126.jpg
Tony Snow (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080712/ap_on_re_us/obit_snow), a conservative writer and commentator who cheerfully sparred with reporters in the White House briefing room during a stint as President Bush's press secretary, died Saturday of colon cancer. He was 53.

[MedicCook]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/HEALTH/07/12/debakey.obit.ap/art.debakey.ap.jpg
Dr. Michael DeBakey (http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/12/debakey.obit.ap/index.html), the world-famous cardiovascular surgeon who pioneered such now-common procedures as bypass surgery and invented a host of devices to help heart patients, died Friday night at The Methodist Hospital in Houston, Texas, officials announced. He was 99.

[Thomas the Solitary]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/components/photo_storylevel/080629/080629-model-vsml-9a.rp350x350.jpg
A European Vogue cover model fell to her death from her Manhattan apartment building Saturday in an apparent suicide, published reports said.

Ruslana Korshunova (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25434058/&gt1=43001), 20, died around 2:30 p.m. in a fall from a building on Water Street, in Manhattan's Financial District, The New York Post, the Daily News and Newsday reported. The newspapers cited unnamed officials and police.

I read this and thought: boy this sounds like a L&O:SVU case to me.

Maybe she was raped?

More than likely she just couldn't take all the attention, the pressure to be "perfect" -- combined with lots of drugs.

[MedicCook]

When ever I hear about a young woman jumping off the balcony of a high building I think of Lethal Weapon.

[Dave]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/HEALTH/07/12/debakey.obit.ap/art.debakey.ap.jpg
Dr. Michael DeBakey (http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/12/debakey.obit.ap/index.html), the world-famous cardiovascular surgeon who pioneered such now-common procedures as bypass surgery and invented a host of devices to help heart patients, died Friday night at The Methodist Hospital in Houston, Texas, officials announced. He was 99.

What was the cause of death? Heart failure?

[MedicCook]

What was the cause of death? Heart failure?

I am saying he dies of cardiac arrest :whistle:, but that is what everyone dies of.

[MedicCook]

http://www.thezebraboat.com/images/kolonics_gyorgy_lg.jpg
Two-time Olympic canoeing gold medalist Gyorgy Kolonics (http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/8347046?MSNHPHMA)died Tuesday after collapsing in his canoe during training.
The 36-year-old Kolonics lost consciousness and paramedics were not able to resuscitate him, the Hungarian Olympic Committee said, adding that the probable cause of death was heart failure.

[MedicCook]

Jo Stafford (http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx/?news=323529&GT1=28102), the honey-voiced band singer who starred in radio and television and sold more than 25 million records with her ballads and folks songs, has died. She was 90.

[MedicCook]

Hall-of-Fame baseball writer Jerome Holtzman (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3499373), who created the save statistic, died Saturday at the age of 82.

[MedicCook]

http://timesunion.com/shared/graphics/newsdb/front0721artietraum.jpg
Artie Traum (http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=705351), a beloved Woodstock songwriter and guitarist who came out of the famous Greenwich Village folk scene of the '60s, is dead.

[MedicCook]

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/russ_gibson_autograph.jpg
Russ Gibson (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10912993), a catcher on the Boston Red Sox team that went to the 1967 World Series, has died. He was 69.

[MedicCook]

http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/images/2007/10/31/kmQI8pD9.jpg
Skip Caray, a voice of the Atlanta Braves for 33 years and part of a family line of baseball broadcasters that included Hall of Famer Harry Caray, died in his sleep at home on Sunday, the team said. He was 68.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3517921

[debbie]

Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community. The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71.
Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs. Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch.
The grave site was piled high with flours. Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times, he still was a crusty old man and was considered a positive roll model for millions.
Doughboy is survived by his wife Play Dough, three children: John Dough, Jane Dough and Dosey Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly father, Pop Tart.
The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.

If this made you smile for even a brief second, please rise to the occasion and take time to pass it on and share that smile with someone else who may be having a crumby day and kneads a lift.

[PerkyBitch]

http://i33.tinypic.com/33nunwz.jpg
LeRoi Moore, a founding member of the Dave Matthews
Band, died Tuesday.

Dave Matthews Band saxophonist, LeRoi Moore, dies

updated 12:19 a.m. EDT, Wed August 20, 2008

(CNN) -- LeRoi Moore, saxophonist and founding member of the Dave Matthews Band, died Tuesday from complications stemming from injuries he sustained in an ATV accident, the band's publicist said.

Moore, 47, died "unexpectedly" at a hospital, publicist Ambrosia Healy said in a statement.

Moore was taken to Hollywood Presbyterian Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, and had been rehabilitating at his L.A. home after the June 30 accident at his farm outside Charlottesville, Virginia.

The Dave Matthews Band was formed in Charlottesville in 1991 by Matthews, drummer Carter Beauford and Moore, an established saxophonist in the local music scene.

Their first album, "Remember Two Things," was released in 1993 and featured what would become the band's trademark mixture of jazz, rock and world-music stylings.

"Jazz is probably my main influence, but at this stage I don't really consider myself a jazz musician," Moore is quoted as saying on the band's Web site. "I have plenty of space to improvise, to try new ideas."

The band's follow-up record, "Under the Table and Dreaming," has been certified quadruple-platinum, selling over 4 million copies.

The group went ahead with a scheduled show Tuesday night at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Jeff Coffin, saxophonist for Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, has been sitting in for Moore since Moore's accident.

Matthews announced the death of the band's "dear friend" to the crowd.

Concertgoer Christian Tomas of Anaheim, California, said by telephone from the Staples Center that word of the death had spread through the crowd before the show.

"All of us are just really sad and down about it," said Tomas, a longtime fan. "But if Dave and the band decided to go on with the show, that means they know it was the right thing to do and Leroi would have wanted it."

[MedicCook]

Frank Cornish IV (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8488506?MSNHPHMA), an offensive lineman on two of the Dallas Cowboys' Super Bowl champion teams in the 1990s, died over the weekend at age 40

[MedicCook]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ncJfGrJ7a2I/R8biFDK8DVI/AAAAAAAAAPo/lZtD4MoPYe8/s1600/200px-Killer_kowalski.jpg
Pro wrestling pioneer Walter "Killer" Kowalski (http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/8506176?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002)died early Saturday from the effects of a massive heart attack. He was 81.

[Bob]

'Bandit' star Reed dies at 71


NASHVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- Jerry Reed, a singer who became a good ol' boy actor in car chase movies like "Smokey and the Bandit," has died of complications from emphysema at 71.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/02/obit.reed.ap/art.reed.ap.jpg
Grammy-winning singer and songwriter Jerry Reed was known for his roles in Burt Reynolds films.



His longtime booking agent, Carrie Moore-Reed, no relation to the star, said Reed died early Monday.
"He's one of the greatest entertainers in the world. That's the way I feel about him," Moore-Reed said.
Reed was a gifted guitarist who later became a songwriter, singer and actor.
As a singer in the 1970s and early 1980s, he had a string of hits that included "Amos Moses," "When You're Hot, You're Hot," "East Bound and Down" and "The Bird."
In the mid-1970s, he began acting in movies such as "Smokey and the Bandit" with Burt Reynolds, usually as a good ol' boy. But he was an ornery heavy in "Gator," directed by Reynolds, and a hateful coach in 1998's "The Waterboy," starring Adam Sandler.
Reynolds gave him a shiny black 1980 Trans Am like the one they used in "Smokey and the Bandit."
Reed and Kris Kristofferson paved the way for Nashville music personalities to make inroads into films. Dolly Parton, Willie Nelson and Kenny Rogers (TV movies) followed their lead.
"I went around the corner to motion pictures," he said in a 1992 AP interview.
Reed had quadruple bypass surgery in June 1999.
Born in Atlanta, Reed learned to play guitar at age 8 when his mother bought him a $2 guitar and showed him how to play a G-chord.
He dropped out of high school to tour with Ernest Tubb and Faron Young.
At 17, he signed his first recording contract, with Capitol Records.
He moved to Nashville in the mid-1960s where he caught the eye of Chet Atkins.
He first established himself as a songwriter. Elvis Presley recorded two of his songs, "U.S. Male" and "Guitar Man" (both in 1968). He also wrote the hit "A Thing Called Love," which was recorded in 1972 by Johnny Cash. He also wrote songs for Brenda Lee, Tom Jones, Dean Martin, Nat King Cole and the Oak Ridge Boys.
Reed was voted instrumentalist of the year in 1970 by the Country Music Association.
He won a Grammy Award for "When You're Hot, You're Hot" in 1971. A year earlier, he shared a Grammy with Chet Atkins for their collaboration, "Me and Jerry." In 1992, Atkins and Reed won a Grammy for "Sneakin' Around."
Reed continued performing on the road into the late 1990s, doing about 80 shows a year.
"I'm proud of the songs, I'm proud of things that I did with Chet (Atkins), I'm proud that I played guitar and was accepted by musicians and guitar players," he told the AP in 1992.
In a 1998 interview with The Tennessean, he admitted that his acting ability was questionable.
"I used to watch people like Richard Burton and Mel Gibson and think, 'I could never do that.'
"When people ask me what my motivation is, I have a simple answer: Money."

[Donna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeBQJHhIj4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04RJyFCg7ks&feature=related

[Thomas the Solitary]

Writer David Foster Wallace found dead
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-09/42339146.jpg
David Foster Wallace was found dead last night at his home in Claremont. He was 46.

His wife told Claremont police that the novelist and humorist who wrote 'Infinite Jest' hanged himself Friday night. He was 46.
By Claire Noland and Joel Rubin
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

September 14, 2008

David Foster Wallace, the novelist, essayist and humorist best known for his 1996 novel "Infinite Jest," was found dead Friday night at his home in Claremont, according to the Claremont Police Department. He was 46.

Jackie Morales, a records clerk at the department, said Wallace's wife called police at 9:30 p.m. Friday saying she had returned home to find that her husband had hanged himself.

Wallace, who had taught creative writing at Pomona College since 2002, was on leave this semester.

Times book editor David Ulin was in New York City for a National Book Critics Circle Board meeting Saturday.

"What was a party is now a wake," Ulin said as the news of Wallace's death circulated. "People were speechless and just blown away.

"He was one of the most influential and innovative writers of the last 20 years," Ulin said.

"He is one of the main writers who brought ambition, a sense of play, a joy in storytelling and an exuberant experimentalism of form back to the novel in the late '80s and early 1990s," Ulin said. "And he really restored the notion of the novel as a kind of canvas on which a writer can do anything."

Wallace won a cult following for his dark humor and ironic wit, which was on display in "The Broom of the System," his 1987 debut novel; "Girl With Curious Hair," a 1989 collection of short stories, and "A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again: Essays and Arguments" (1997). In 1997, he also received a grant from the MacArthur Foundation.

A year earlier he shot to the top of the literary world with "Infinite Jest," a sprawling, ambitious novel with a nonlinear plot that ran 1,079 pages and had nearly as many footnotes.

Critics marveled at the prodigious talent evident in his imaginative take on a future world, comparing him to Thomas Pynchon and John Irving.

In a 1996 profile in the New York Times Magazine, Frank Bruni wrote, "Wallace is to literature what Robin Williams or perhaps Jim Carrey is to live comedy: a creator so maniacally energetic and amused with himself that he often follows his riffs out into the stratosphere, where he orbits all alone."

Other collections of fiction and nonfiction followed, including "Brief Interviews With Hideous Men" (1999), "Everything and More: A Compact History of Infinity" (2003) and "Oblivion" (2004).

In June, to coincide with this fall's presidential election, he reworked a 2000 essay about Republican candidate John McCain for a paperback published as "McCain's Promise: Aboard the Straight Talk Express With John McCain and a Whole Bunch of Actual Reporters, Thinking About Hope."

Wallace was born Feb. 21, 1962, in Ithaca, N.Y., and raised in Illinois, where his father taught philosophy at the University of Illinois and his mother taught English at a community college.

A talented tennis player as a youngster, Wallace attended Amherst College and majored in philosophy before switching his focus to writing fiction.

He graduated with a bachelor's degree in 1985 and turned his senior thesis into the basis for "The Broom of the System."

After earning a master's degree in fine arts from the University of Arizona, Wallace began teaching writing at Illinois State University in Normal in 1993.

In 2002 he was named the first Roy E. Disney professor of creative writing at Pomona College.

Gary Kates, the college's dean, called Wallace's death "an incredible loss."

"He was a fabulous teacher," Kates said Saturday. "He was hands-on with his students. He cared deeply about them. . . . He was a jewel on the faculty, and we deeply appreciated everything he gave to the college."

In addition to his wife, Karen Green, and his parents, Wallace is survived by a sister.

A memorial service is planned at Pomona College.

[MedicCook]

House Peters Jr. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/10/02/obit.petersjr.ap/index.html), a TV actor who became the original Mr. Clean in Procter & Gamble's commercials for household cleaners, died Wednesday. He was 92.

http://members.tripod.com/~ClaytonMoore/house48a.jpg

[MedicCook]

Eileen Herlie (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx/?news=334232&gt1=28103), a stage and TV actress who appeared on "All My Children" for more than three decades as the motherly Myrtle Fargate, has died at 90.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Oct08/eileenherlie_150.jpg

[Donna]

AWWWWWWWWWWWWW MYRTLE!!!! :byetears:

[Thomas the Solitary]

who the fuck is that?

(then again, you all are probably "who the fuck is that wallace idiot?)

[MedicCook]

I figured one of our senior members would know her. :whistle:

[Thomas the Solitary]

I tried reading "Interviews with Hideous Men" by David Foster Wallace... and I couldn't stomach it.

It reads like really, really bad porn. At least, thats the way I saw it.

Of course, the whole established intelligentsia thought it was great, and heralded it as the return of the American short story and all that jazz.

Like I said, I just couldn't take it, not worth my time and effort. And believe me, reading his stuff *does* take effort. He makes it that way, too.

Oh and it also read kind of like a whacked out "literary" professor making out a suicide letter.

Huh. Imagine that.

By the way, the ex-g/f asked me "so, are you in that book?". that Bitch.


I just did a tiny little search, and look what pops up.
http://orangestripezebra.blogspot.com/2007/08/bliss.html



http://a4.vox.com/6a00c2251ded1f8e1d00d4143cbee4685e-500pi (http://a4.vox.com/6a00c2251ded1f8e1d00d4143cbee4685e-500pi)
Before he went on stage though, I told Kate's friend who was also named Kate, "I bet you $20 John Krasinski reads from David Foster Wallace's Brief Interviews with Hideous Men." And by Geroge, he did! I have great fortune telling abilities. When I saw him pull out the book I was thinking to myself, "Are you fucking serious? All you are going to do is read SOMEBODY ELSE'S work?" But he did an excellent job reading, because he is a professional actor by the way, even though he read the very first interview...how original. He did say David Foster Wallace will "lead us to the Promise Land," and I believe that prediction will come true very soon. get ready for the next Moses.

Sorry. I get on a kick and... well, ahem. Sorry.

[Donna]

I figured one of our senior members would know her. :whistle:

SENIOR??? :toetap: Senior THIS

[MedicCook]

Hospital officials say 37-year-old French actor Guillaume Depardieu (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx/?news=334429&gt1=28101)has died from complications linked to a sudden case of pneumonia.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Oct08/GuillaumeDepardieu_150.jpg

[Thomas the Solitary]

That guy looks kinda familiar.

[MedicCook]

He looks like the guy from Pirates of the Carribean.

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgfp1785+orlando-bloom-is-will-turner-pirates-of-the-caribbean-3-at-worlds-end-poster.jpg

[Thomas the Solitary]

I haven't seen that, and it's not available for netflix instant, either. Well, the third one is... but...

He looks sort of kind of like Boromir (Lord of the Rings). A little bit.

[MedicCook]

Chris Mims (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8679946?MSNHPHMA), a former defensive lineman for the San Diego Chargers beset by legal problems, was found dead in his downtown apartment Wednesday. He was 38.

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/8680364_36_5.jpg

[trojanmiro]

no shit.

[MedicCook]

I predict drug OD.

[trojanmiro]

I predict drug OD.

prolly a coke overdose.

[MedicCook]

With all the troubles he was having suicide is very likely.

[MedicCook]

Neil Hefti, composer of the Batman theme tune, has-died of a heart attack, aged 85.

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Original Marilyn Manson Bass Player ODs

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:q8YDWkWDn3ZzaM:http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s155/LadyGidget/GidgetSupport/l_35de26defda1592109a78886b67a5dc1.jpg

Gidget Gein (http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=6528) (aka Brad Stewart), the original bass player for Marilyn Manson, has died from a drug overdose at his Burbank home.

Stewart was with the original Manson band but kicked out and was replaced by Twiggy Ramirez because of his drug use at the time.

He went on to form The Dali Gaggers after Manson.

Stewart used the Marilyn Manson format of ‘Actress name’ ‘Serial killer’ name to come up with Gidget Gein. Gidget was from the Sally Field TV character of the 60s, Gein was named after killer Ed Gein.

Stewart’s death has been confirmed by the LA coroner's office.

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=6528

[debbie]

Hey ... can we make changes to our lists?

[trojanmiro]

Hey ... can we make changes to our lists?

depends.............. at this point in time since the year is nearly over i would strongly discourage it. basically we have 8 weeks left and then we all make new list.

but i guess as long as your not picking someone whos just hit the headlines and on lifesupport and such, and ryan and bill agree to it, ill go along with it.

[MedicCook]

I don't think it would be fair to be changing your list during the year. It would be like changing your football pick after the 3rd quarter.

[trojanmiro]

I don't think it would be fair to be changing your list during the year. It would be like changing your football pick after the 3rd quarter.

basically what i was getting at. if it was late jan or feb or something maybe..... but we are getting into the final stretch here.

[debbie]

I was just curious.
Has anyone picked anyone that has kicked off?
Someone needs to keep and publish the scores.

[sws4420]

I was just curious.
Has anyone picked anyone that has kicked off?
Someone needs to keep and publish the scores.Ryan and Mike are the only ones, I think. Ryan keeps track in this thread.
http://s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19390

[trojanmiro]

Ryan and Mike are the only ones, I think. Ryan keeps track in this thread.
http://s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19390

http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?t=19390

you beat me to it by a minute

[sws4420]

That's why I'm the Chairman and you're the futureless Moderator.

I'm drunk with power.

[trojanmiro]

That's why I'm the Chairman and you're the futureless Moderator.

I'm drunk with power.

i sometimes am useful to hold down the fort when your away.

[sws4420]

Indeed you are. That's why you get the green lettering.

[MedicCook]

Four Tops frontman Levi Stubbs (http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx/?news=335151&GT1=28102), whose dynamic and emotive voice drove such Motown classics as "Reach Out (I'll Be There)" and "Baby I Need Your Loving," died Friday at 72.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Oct08/levistubbs_150.jpg

[MedicCook]

Rudy Ray Moore (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx/?news=335607&GT1=28101), a raunchy 1970s comedian who played the title role of a flashy pimp in the movie "Dolemite" and influenced a generation of rappers, has died. He was 81.

http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/News/Oct08/rudyraymoore_150.jpg

[MedicCook]

http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/photos/ART_brecher_120905.jpg

Irving Brecher (http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=340364&gt1=28112), who wrote vaudeville one-liners for Milton Berle and scripted Marx Brothers movies, the TV and radio hit "The Life of Riley" and the Oscar-nominated musical "Meet Me in St. Louis," has died. He was 94.

[debbie]

MC Breed: Detroit Rap Luminary Dead At 36

Posted Nov 23rd 2008 1:01PM by Karu F. Daniels (http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/2008/11/23/blogs/bloggers/karu-f-daniels)
Filed under: Entertainment Newswire (http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/category/entertainment-newswire/), Entertainment (http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/category/entertainment/)
By Karu F. Daniels, BlackVoices.com (http://www.blackvoices.com/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.blackvoices.com/blogs/media/2008/11/mcbreed.pngRapper MC Breed (http://music.aol.com/artist/mc-breed/biography/1044504) is dead.

The Michigan-based rapper (real name: Eric Breed), who has worked with the likes of Tupac Shakur (http://music.aol.com/artist/2pac/biography/1036245) and Too Short (http://music.aol.com/artist/too-hort/biography/1109807), succumbed to apparent complications from kidney failure, according to published reports.

Darryl Morris, Breed's manager, told the 'The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage)' that he was found dead on Saturday (Nov. 22) at a friend's home in Ypsilanti. No further details were available as of press time.

In September, Breed was reportedly playing basketball in Atlanta when he collapsed. He was then transported from the site of the pickup game to a nearby hospital, where he was listed in critical condition.

[trojanmiro]

ryan are we gonna do this again for 2009? if so people may want to start to think of a list so we can have a smooth transition. hopefully we could just have this one end at new year and the new one begin.

[MedicCook]

I will hand over the ball to you for 2009.

[MedicCook]

http://www.slinkyprint.com/news/100_0852t.JPG
Betty James (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hSE38TCRpBM36XX9IK_OR1rRIFnQD94K8LOG0), who co-founded the company that made the Slinky and beat the odds as a single mother in the late 1950s to become a successful executive, has died. She was 90.

[Dave]

I love Slinky's.

[sws4420]

I'll probably just keep the same list seeing none of my people died.