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MedicCook
02-04-2010, 01:12 PM
Two-inch LEGO gun gets 4th-grader in trouble
Parents left fuming after principal threatens the boy with suspension

A tiny toy led to big trouble for one fourth-grade New York City boy.

Patrick Timoney, a 9-year-old student at PS 52 in Staten Island, N.Y., was in the school cafeteria Tuesday playing with LEGOs when he was taken to the principal’s office and threatened with suspension. One of his toys was a LEGO policeman that holds a 2-inch plastic gun. The school has a no-tolerance policy when it comes to toy guns.

“[The gun] was so little,” the boy told WNBC. “I wouldn’t really think that the principal would cause a lot of commotion just for a little gun.”

The boy’s mother, Laura Timoney, 44, was fuming over the issue.

“You don’t traumatize a child who loved to go to school, who wanted to be early every day to school, you don’t make him cry, you don’t make him fill out statements,” she told WNBC, holding back tears. “You don’t do it.”

Pat Timoney, the boy’s father and a retired police officer, was also upset, saying that he’s dealt with people who use imitation weapons as a way to threaten others and commit crimes, and that this situation is different, considering the pinky-size gun in question.

The toy was confiscated by principal Evelyn Mastroianni, a conference was held with the boy and his parents, and ultimately, no further disciplinary action was taken.

Department of Education policy states that there can be no imitation guns on school property, and a representative said that the principal has ultimate discretion, and this one felt there was reason for “concern.”

“You need to exercise good judgment,” said Laura Timoney. “In my opinion, this was the wrong call.”

She says she may sue over what she calls “a lack of common sense.”


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35234742/ns/today-today_people?GT1=43001

Dave
02-04-2010, 01:45 PM
I think the no-tolerance policy goes too far. Kids can't even play anymore.

LLL
02-04-2010, 02:00 PM
I think you're right, Dave. Would the kid be allowed to bring a rock to school as part of science show-and-tell? I would bet yes. He could bash a kid over the head with it. But, a little plastic gun attached to a Lego Man's hand is out? Come on.

Dave
02-04-2010, 02:04 PM
I brought shotgun shells to school for a project in either middle or high school and a knife I fashioned out of wood for another. I bet that would be a no no now.

Thomas the Solitary
02-04-2010, 03:06 PM
I had a swiss army knife (well, a cheap knock-off) just a touch bigger than MacGyver's, and they caught me using it to snip off some thread hanging off my book bag.
It was taken away from me.
I still remember the indignation I felt LOL... it was a tool, I was going to the trade school they had, wtf.

And all those fools in Shop class? How about art, we were using razors in there, for crying out loud.
But me and my dull ass jacknife that wouldn't hardly cut a single lousy thread?
Oh, nope... I'll take that.

Dave
02-04-2010, 03:08 PM
I always carried a pocket knife in school. Most of the guys I knew had one. I never had it taken away.

Thomas the Solitary
02-04-2010, 03:28 PM
I think most of my problem was the fact that I did it in the middle of the classroom (wasn't thinking, I guess) and all the students around me were like "Oooooh, he's got a knife! Oooooh, I'm telling.... etc. etc."
It was during the quiet time after the lecture and before the bell, when one worked on the homework, etc.

LLL
02-04-2010, 03:29 PM
Brings back a memory of 5th grade.....I always kept a lucky nail in my desk shelf underneath (why a nail I don't remember, but it was there). I was out sick for several days and when I got back I was blamed for scratching bad shit on the boys room walls because they knew I had that friggin nail. Guess it was ironic payback for all the bad stuff I did and was never caught for.:rotflmao:

Dave
02-04-2010, 03:40 PM
This brings back the memory of the recent case involving the Eagle Scout that got expelled for having a pocket knife in his survival kit in the trunk of his car. Stupid shit I think.

Thomas the Solitary
02-04-2010, 03:43 PM
I was a senior at that time, btw. rockin' 1993.

trojanmiro
02-04-2010, 09:51 PM
This brings back the memory of the recent case involving the Eagle Scout that got expelled for having a pocket knife in his survival kit in the trunk of his car. Stupid shit I think.

shit like that could make a non violent kid stab a principal with his easgle scout knife. that whole decision was beyond retarded. admins need to use common sense rather then zero tolerance. a good lawyer should have gotten hom off though, since technically the inside of a car is private property.

MedicCook
02-05-2010, 01:17 AM
I have no-problem with the zero tolerence policy when it comes to actual weapons but this does not even fall into the toy gun category. The principle could have handled the situation much better. He probably has given the kid a complex now and will grow up to be a mass murderer.

Thomas the Solitary
02-05-2010, 01:42 AM
... that only kills school principals...

Donna
02-05-2010, 08:53 AM
Brings back a memory of 5th grade.....I always kept a lucky nail in my desk shelf underneath (why a nail I don't remember, but it was there). I was out sick for several days and when I got back I was blamed for scratching bad shit on the boys room walls because they knew I had that friggin nail. Guess it was ironic payback for all the bad stuff I did and was never caught for.:rotflmao:

umm.....a lucky nail? :rotflmao:

sws4420
02-05-2010, 09:03 AM
I understand his logic.

Amy is my lucky screw.

LLL
02-05-2010, 09:06 AM
Exactly, Stack, years later women felt "lucky" to get "nailed", so I guess it was prophetic -- or pathetic.

sws4420
02-05-2010, 09:30 AM
A little of both.